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"The best content is developed through civil collaboration between editors who hold opposing points of view."
by Valjean. From WP:NEUTRALEDIT

"The quality of Wikipedia articles rises with the number of editors per article as well as a greater diversity among them."[1]

When all else fails, AGF and remember that

We Just Disagree
So let's leave it alone, 'cause we can't see eye to eye.
There ain't no good guy, there ain't no bad guy.
There's only you and me, and we just disagree.

by Dave Mason (Listen)

Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement
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Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:33, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).

Administrator changes

removed Pppery

Interface administrator changes

removed Pppery

Oversighter changes

removed Wugapodes

CheckUser changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
  • A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


The Signpost: 4 September 2024

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That was kind of sweet

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"Now, last time you talked to Slate, you had an update for Wikipedia. Do you have any further updates for Wikipedia that you would like to share? No, I don’t. But that was one of my favorite moments on Twitter of all time. That was amazing." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! The Emily St. John Mandel situation. I have forgotten most of it, so had to look again. I hope she feels justice was finally done here. I still believe we should allow mention of the controversy over Wikipedia's failure. We normally do it as it's clearly notable enough for mention. Our added failure to even mention it is a clear case of censorship to protect Wikipedia's reputation, and that's just wrong. In one breath we have a policy that says Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED, and in the next we actually censor it for the worst possible reason. That example makes me ashamed to be a wikipedian. Consensus can be wrong.
What is that Twitter moment she mentions? Do you have info on that or a link to a tweet? https://x.com/emilymandel -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My reading is when she tweeted "Interview me please!" and Slate said "sure". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense. It worked. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 20:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Ferriss

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Hi Valjean, I'm working to update Tim Ferriss's page with details about his philanthropic work in the field of psychedelic research. I see that you're a member of WP:ALTMED, so I hope that you will consider implementing my edit request on the Talk page. I would love your help. Thank you! Coyoteadventures (talk) 14:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification

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See Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard#Ellen G. White. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Destiny (streamer) revert

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@ValijeanCan you elaborate on why Fox News is not credible but other outlets are? Destiny made very extreme remarks regarding the Trump assassination attempt as clearly stated in a Piers Morgan: Uncensored episode. Are you suggesting I include the YouTube video as a source as well? – Brenr 17:09, September 21, 2024 (UTC) – Brenr 17:09, September 21, 2024 (UTC) 17:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Valijean I've adjusted the source to YouTube. Let's not revert that. I can find additional sources so it's incompliance with Wikipedia's standards. – Brenr 17:14, September 21, 2024 (UTC)
Why do you even ask such a question? Are you unaware of the extreme biases of Fox News and how it broadcasts falsehoods and deception all the time? We limit its use, especially regarding BLP assertions. If Destiny is really far-left, then there will be multiple mainstream RS that say so. The article already includes multiple descriptions of Destiny's political views. Your YouTube primary source isn't good either. It doesn't even describe him as far-left. You need multiple mainstream, secondary, RS that say it. This is BLP stuff, so we're very careful and delete immediately until better sourcing is provided. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A YouTube video is an original source, which is sufficient. A valid source doesn't need to be one that is from a publisher with a pundit who describes him as extreme. He has demonstrated that by his own words, which is absolutely sufficient as a source. Also, where are you getting this idea that left-wing media outlets would publish articles claiming Destiny is far left when the outlets themselves have a left leaning? – Brenr 17:30, September 21, 2024 (UTC)
YouTube is a primary source we are cautious about using, especially for BLP claims. I use it to back up what RS already say. That's a legitimate use of primary sources. That he might express views that are typically far-left isn't good enough. That's our own POV about what he says. We need secondary RS that expressly say it. If it's that difficult to find such sources, then it doesn't belong in the article. BTW, I have no previous knowledge of either Destiny or Tim Pool. I don't usually listen to podcasts or YouTube channels for such content. I use YouTube for music, and YouTube Premium is well worth the cost. You can read about my media diet. I occasionally hear an episode of The David Pakman Show because my wife shares it with me. She likes him, and he doesn't rant and rave. He seems clearly left-wing and progressive, and not far-left. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]