User talk:Liu1126

Question from Laitn3 (14:07, 20 June 2024)

Hello! i am new in editing wikipedia, that`s why i ask many questions to you regarding, How i post better knowledge and make a new birth of articles; can you help me achieving my goal. --Laitn3 (talk) 14:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Laitn3, tutorials like Help:Introduction and Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure should get you off to a good start. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask me or other editors. Liu1126 (talk) 02:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Aleksolas (02:40, 22 June 2024)

So... What's a mentor (in the context of Wikipedia)? What is this box in the corner of this page for? (Consider this also as a test of this feature) --Aleksolas (talk) 02:40, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Aleksolas, as your mentor my task is to answer any questions you have about editing in order to help you acclimate to the community quicker and become a better editor. I'm not sure what box you are referring to, but if you're talking about the box on you Newcomer Homepage from where you asked this question, then... well, this is what it does. Liu1126 (talk) 02:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Aleksolas (03:51, 22 June 2024)

Wikipedia has a number of "metapages" (for lack of a better word) that are not articles, but instead centralized collections of large amounts of links all related to a specific topic, in some format. These include overviews, outlines, lists, portals, glossaries, categories, and indices. Each type of metapage has a page called "/Wikipedia:Contents/*" containing links to most or all pages of that type. At the top of each of these metapages is a list of specifically thirteen topics, into which all elements of the type are sorted: "General reference", "Culture and the arts", "Geography and places", "Health and fitness", "History and events", "Human activities", "Mathematics and logic", "Natural and physical sciences", "People and self", "Philosophy and thinking", "Religion and belief systems", "Society and social sciences", and "Technology and applied sciences".

Every page organizing a metapage type uses this same set of thirteen topics. This set appears at the top of each one of them, as well as the /Contents/ page for each of those topics, as well as at the top of most portals (though these usually exclude "Reference"). So it might be that every single thing in the universe - that is, every single thing or concept that there could be a Wikipedia article about - can be sorted into one of those thirteen topics.

Ever since I noticed this structure, I've wondered: Why, specifically, these topics? As in: Why those thirteen, and not some other set? For example, why are "History" and "Human activities" distinct? The entirety of history is human activities. Or, why is biology a subset of "Natural and physical sciences", and not its own element in the set, or a subset of "Health and fitness"? Did this set of thirteen develop naturally / organically during Wikipedia's early life? Or is it a copy of some other such set that predates Wikipedia, integrated into the site by an admin or council? --Aleksolas (talk) 03:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Aleksolas, thanks for the intriguing question. How this categorisation scheme developed, just as how many other things on Wikipedia came into existence, was through years of continuous discussion and change. The first discussions regarding this scheme from back in 2004 are archived at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contents/Archive 1, and as you can see several different schemes were proposed, most of which were vastly different from what we have today. The one that was initially decided upon is fairly similar to what we have today, categorising articles into the categories: Culture, Geography, History, Mathematics, People, Science, Society, Technology. If you're interested, the archives of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contents should contain the discussions that evolved this scheme to what it looks like today. Discussion about it will probably continue until the death of Wikipedia, and in another 20 years this scheme will most likely look very different from now, as it did 20 years ago.

To speak more generally, most (but not all) things on Wikipedia evolved this way, and it is consensus among editors that decided every step of this path. In my opinion, consensus is what runs everything on Wikipedia. Consensus could change, which is why things like this categorisation scheme have differed in the past. Consensus could be local, and may be overridden by consensus among a larger group of editors. But when consensus is established, it defines the appearance of a part of Wikipedia until it is overturned. Liu1126 (talk) 04:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Maikelarista (01:19, 26 June 2024)

hello, thank you for your help --Maikelarista (talk) 01:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding your accusation

As per our discussion in Nicolás Maduro, you accused me of accusing you of having personal bias leaning towards a personal attack, and even "warned" me in a way that felt very threatening. I'd like you to be a little more cordial when you're a part of a Discussion. Cutting to the point, I did not accuse you of anything. I said "I believe you're being biased, how can I contact support?". As my personal opinion very clearly, meaning I'd have liked another input if possible, and cordially. FardoObsceno (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I believe this altercation was a result of misunderstanding on both sides. Upon further consideration, my warning was a rash assumption of bad faith, for which I apologise, although I disagree with your assessment that it was "very threatening". The rest of my comment still stands. Unless you think it's WP:ANI worthy material, I suggest we move on and continue the discussion, focusing on the content, not on each other. Liu1126 (talk) 02:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)