Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drake–Kendrick Lamar feud
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The result was keep. Withdrawn by nominator [1] — CactusWriter (talk) 17:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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This article is not needed, this information is already in Diss (music), where other rap feuds between artists are listed. Biggie and Tupac arguably the biggest rap feud of all, does not have a standalone article dedicated to their feud, and we should not start this precedent here with every single rap feud. Cena332 (talk) 15:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 May 8. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 15:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong keep as there is significant third-party coverage of the topic that it clearly meet notability requirements. The fact that the Biggie and Tupac feud does not have an article is textbook WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST argument and the nominator has not provided any other specific rationale as of this message's posting. Sock (
tocktalk) 15:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong keep In addition to Sock's point, Bigge and Tupac DO have a page East Coast–West Coast hip hop rivalry so do other hip hop rivalries Alitheboss55 (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- That article is not solely dedicated to their feud. Cena332 (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that it is. Not much is written on events that occurred after Tupac and Biggie's death. Topumpaladybug (talk) 16:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- That article is not solely dedicated to their feud. Cena332 (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, the nominator is not requesting the content to be deleted, but to be redirected. This is handled at WP:MERGE instead. (CC) Tbhotch™ 15:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I said this information is already in Diss (music). Not to be merged. Cena332 (talk) 15:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- You also said that this is a precedent when it is not. Refer to Category:Hip hop feuds and nominates articles with a valid rationale. (CC) Tbhotch™ 15:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I said this information is already in Diss (music). Not to be merged. Cena332 (talk) 15:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I think this article needs to exist to help people who dont understand what is happening. IonlyPlayz2 (talk) 15:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- i agree Sammy 071 (talk) 15:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- second this. MessiIsMyBezzie (talk) 15:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see any actual arguments in these responses. Drmies (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Per the arguments above. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Seconded. LemurianPatriot (talk) 15:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I concur. Topumpaladybug (talk) 16:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Diss (music) is a broad-concept article that links to a number of more specific articles, including Roxanne Wars, East Coast–West Coast hip hop rivalry, and the article being discussed, Drake–Kendrick Lamar feud. Per WP:NOMERGE, "Merging should be avoided if" [...] "The topics are discrete subjects warranting their own articles, with each meeting the General Notability Guidelines, even if short".The Drake–Kendrick Lamar feud meets WP:GNG with significant coverage in numerous independent reliable sources, including the Associated Press, The Independent, The New York Times, Variety, Agence France-Presse, and many more. — Newslinger talk 15:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong keep - significant independent coverage in reliable sources. Jellyfish (mobile) (talk) 15:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - This feud is notable, and the Diss article is a broad one, it's not specifically talking about this feud. Putting the entire history of this diss would only unnecessarily lengthen the article more. Jesoysauce (talk) 16:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: I'm not sure what a "strong keep" is, but I think it would require a strong argument. Drmies (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: While some of the individual diss tracks might be worth consolidating into this main article, this is a broadly notable subject that has drawn significant media coverage and resulted in a series of releases by two major musicians. Its cultural impact is definitely sufficient to count as notable. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:08, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per significant coverage. The fact that it has a list entry in a broader article doesn't mean it should be deleted, just like we shouldn't delete Joe Biden for being mentioned in List of presidents of the United States. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- User:Cena332, I don't like saying this, but this may be headed for a record Keep per WP:SNOW. I think you should consider withdrawing it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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