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Arctic (tug)

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This set index article is currently acting as an incomplete disambiguation of the base name Arctic, which already has its own disambiguation page. Keep or redirect to Arctic (disambiguation) § Ships? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment they are not all listed at the disambiguation page, but instead need to navigate into the sublist USS Arctic, which lists one of the tugs, and not on the main disambiguation page. -- 64.229.88.34 (talk)
- I am fine with redirecting it to the disambiguation page. -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 00:00, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al Gelato

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This article on a gelato brand no longer in existence, fails WP:NCORP and GNG. A before search finds social media but not much else. Netherzone (talk) 23:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Semantic discord

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Hi, I'm proposing the article Semantic discord for deletion. The existing have serious problems and I have not been able to find significant sources that are specifically about "semantic discord" (or "semantic dispute"). The article is very old (2004) and have not had many serious expansions since. Various examples have been added and later removed because they were unfortunate examples. In 2021, it was merged with Semantic dispute (which has the same issues).

Comments on the current sources:

The article in "The Horizon" may have it as its specific topic but I cannot access it (but it seems to be a student publication, which is maybe not ideal as the only serious source).
The Devitt article is about methods in (philosophical?) semantics and covers something relevant about the topic. He uses the term "semantic" disputes a few times, but sometimes it seems to be more in the sense of 'dispute within the field of semantics'. (I have not read it in its entirety, but the word 'discord' does not occur there).
The source "Encyclopedia of GIS" is about naming conventions of geographic data (about 'semantic uncertainty', with a section of two paragraphs called "Discord"), which is not really the topic of the article.
The fourth source may be spam, but used to link to some course notes that are about the term 'semantically loaded' (related, but something different).

The term "semantic discord" can be easily be found in use through searching (when searching, I spent extra time looking at Google Scholar), but it does not seem to be something specific that is studied or described in detail in an encyclopedic (or encyclopedically useful) way. It seems to be used to refer to any kind of discord (in the normal sense of the word, i.e. disagreement or tension) that may be connected to "semantics" in a very broad sense. Sometimes it's the lack of linguistic agreement, sometimes it's differing meaning in different languges, sometimes it's differences in the interpretation of law, sometimes it's differing in the core of various ism's, and some people seem to introduce it as a term for their statistical solution to some problem. But I got the feeling that the term is very often a loaded term itself, often used to describe some arguing as a rooted in questions of definition (especially the case with 'semantic dispute'). Over the history of this article and "semantic dispute", various examples have been added and removed as not being good or being opinionated.

I have difficulty seeing how it would be possible to write about it without some variety of original research (or synthesis) or without controversial examples/POV problems.

Potentially, something about the term could in principle fit into a broad-concept article on "Discord", which it seems difficult to disentangle from (but note that an earlier article on "Disagrement" was deleted), but it could be a redirect target nonetheless. Or it could redirect to Semantic argument, which seems related, or one of the things under "see also" (e.g. to loaded language).

There are no links from article namespace except the disambiguation page Discord (disambiguation) (I removed an irrelevant link from Ladda Land recently), but there are links from various discussions. Note that Semantic dispute and Semantically loaded redirects to it. //Replayful (talk | contribs) 23:36, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the article is not in good shape, and it isn't clear if there are editors interested in the topic, but there are many scholarly articles that use the term. Without doing deep research (i.e. no, I'm not going to read 10-20 articles on G-Scholar), I am going to assume that the use of the term in those sources is significant. Lamona (talk) 03:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But do you have the impression there was any significant coverage of the term? I went through several pages on Google Scholar and everything looked like passing mention (or just regular use) of the two words. //Replayful (talk | contribs) 10:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What they show is that "semantic discord" is a "thing" - it is a known concept that is used frequently to describe something. Most of them don't define it, which tells me that they expect readers to already understand the concept. That tells me is that it is a common concept in some disciplines. I did find one article discussing it as a concept rather than using it to describe social actions - here. A search in Google Books brings up a number of books in the area of linguistics. I don't know if this is just some post-modern gobbly-gook or if it is a serious area of study - I have yet to find the origin of the term, which presumably would define it. But there is a lot of evidence of its use. Lamona (talk) 17:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess we're interpreting the evidence in opposite ways :) But what I fear is that having a Wikipedia article makes it sound more like a "thing" than it is. The 2020 paper you mention seems a lot like a close paraphrase of Wikipedia, and it doesn't provide any sources in the relevant section. Some of the linguistic books are probably going to be about lack of linguistic agreement of semantic features, which is something else than what the article is currently about. //Replayful (talk | contribs) 15:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I very much share your concern that the Wikipedia article is creating something out of nothing with this term (as I discuss below). I found that same 2020 computer science paper in my own search and it's really the closest I could find to useful coverage at all-- and it's a totally sourceless claim about an unrelated discipline, exactly the sort of thing someone would pull from Wikipedia. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 08:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsure of what to do here. There’re some possibilities of expansion and examples, such as the use of “rigor” in education, but I don’t see any secondary sources. Is this too soon? Bearian (talk) 02:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Too soon, yes, with the footnote that it's among the first 1000 pages on Wikipedia (as Semantic dispute) and has not developed well in the time since then. //Replayful (talk | contribs) 10:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is the sort of phrase where I do think it's necessary to actually examine the sourcing to see if people are discussing a well-defined concept or if they're just naturally pairing together the words "semantic" and "discord"/"dispute". (i.e., the difference between apple pie-- a Thing-- and yummy pie-- a common linguistic construction.) I can't find any evidence that this is a Thing. Below is my assessment of some sources, starting with the ones cited in the article.

meh: "Semantic discord is rooted in confusing labels and titles" (unpaywalled wayback link) This is a student editorial about the political terms "pro-life" and "Defund the Police," which argues that both terms are ineffective because they cause semantic discord. Its only discussion of semantic discord is in the introductory paragraph: ...semantic discord, which is when two parties disagree on the meaning of a word or several words that are crucial to furthering discussion of the issue at hand. Oftentimes, semantic discord arises not out of genuine misunderstanding, but as an opportunity for petty jabs at an opponent... -- this implies that semantic discord is A Thing but I wouldn't consider it sigcov in itself.
nope: "Uncertainty, Semantic." In Encyclopedia of GIS -- This encyclopedia redirects "semantic discord" as a synonym for semantic uncertainty, as defined in the discipline of geographic data analysis, which is entirely different from what our article discusses. (It is really just the idea that Birmingham is ambiguous.)
nope: The Methodology of Naturalistic Semantics -- This is an article about semantics that never uses the words "semantic discord". It does pose as its key question How should we go about settling semantic disputes? (p 545) Having desperately worked to understand this paper, however, I conclude that it actually about the concept of intuition in philosophy, and is useless for writing an article called "semantic discord"; moreover, it does not remotely verify the information it is cited for.
big nope: The fourth cited source, currently listed as "SO3", used to point to a PDF, visible in this prior version of the page. The PDF is a professor's class notes for their students, including a vocabulary list, including the vocabulary word "semantically loaded." This is not useful coverage of the concept "semantic discord."
nope: Semantical Discordances of Comparison in Law Negatively Defined -- this is a paper on an entirely unrelated topic (comparative law) which just happens to use the phrase semantic discord.
nope: Semantic Discord: Finding Unusual Local Patterns for Time Series -- this paper is coining the term "semantic discord" but it's a completely different thing; their baseline definition of "discord" has to do with anomalies in time-series data, and a "semantic discord" is a time-series data anomaly which has been located by evaluating local context instead of just the overall series. (They appear to name it 'semantic' because of the idea that semantics are related to context.)
meh: Linguistics meets economics: Dealing with semantic variation This is the most promising, but still insufficient. It uses the word discord only once: As a leading illustrative example, we consider semantic discord in the entrepreneurial finance world. The associated frictions have real and non-negligible costs. This bolsters our notion that we have identified a relevant and applicable constraining force on semantic change (68). The overall focus of the paper is on semantic change. Along the way there is substantial discussion of what they term "semantic variation", i.e., instances where people understand the same word differently. The situations that relate to our semantic discord article are consistently referred to as "miscommunications". As a linguistics paper it has many opportunities to define and discuss the concept of "semantic discord" and does not do so.

I did some additional searching and I think "semantic variation" is a Thing in linguistics, but it's not semantic discord.

hmm...yikes!! Theory versus practice in annealing-based quantum computing I got very excited by this: A technical term that has multiple meanings is semantically loaded. Philosophers use the term semantic discord to refer to a situation where a dispute about some concept arises not from disagreement about the concept, but from disagreement about the meanings of the words used to describe the concept: that is, semantically loaded language leads to semantic discord. That sounds tasty. However, I think they actually got this idea from our Wikipedia article. These computer scientists cite no sources for this claim, and searching "semantic discord" + "philosophy" just brings up a bunch of people talking about the Wikipedia article. (This asklinguistics reddit thread seems particularly damning. (They find the term "semantic dissonance" but that is the same concept as the "semantic uncertainty" from the GIS textbook, it's not at all this article's concept.))

Having looked at all the above sources and many others which didn't warrant more than a skim, I can find no grounds to have an article on "semantic discord," and no appropriate options for renaming. I think deletion is called for. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 08:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ (I'm the nominator), but I think it would best be done as a redirect to Discord (disambiguation) or Dispute (or alternatively Semantic argument). --//Replayful (talk | contribs) 09:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC) (I'm striking this duplicate vote. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)) [reply]
- FYI Nominators don't get an additional boldtext delete !vote (it's implied in the nomination). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 10:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Thank you for the clarification. I guess I was just blindly following dawiki practices or mixing it up with other discussions. I hope I haven't messed up anything now. But a little weird if the "participants" count at e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Linguistics/Article alerts is not supposed to include the nominator as a participant. //Replayful (talk | contribs) 11:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What the article alerts bot decides is important for the sake of recruiting more editors isn't considered when a discussion is closed by an admin. At that stage, the nomination statement is understood to be a delete vote (or !vote) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 11:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Of the proposed redirects, I think semantic argument is the most plausibly useful. I prefer deletion but wouldn't object to a redirect to semantic argument. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:37, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Love, Sitara

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Unreleased Indian film. Nothing notable about the production, so it does not meet WP:NFF. I couldn't any sources that give WP:SIGCOV so WP:GNG is also not met. The only sources I could find only give routine coverage based on plot summaries, press releases, quotes from people involved in the film and social media posts. John B123 (talk) 20:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: announced release in 12 days, and probably coverage coming with it. So this is either too early (cannot judge yet) or too late (too close to release's date). There is no need to delete or draftify for such a short period of time (which, by the time this discussion is over will be either reduced to 5 days or less than zero, if it is Relisted). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Film is as yet unreleased. Therefore a black-and-white case of not satisfying WP:NFF: Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines. Film has not yet been released, the production itself is not notable. QED. Article could have remained in draft space... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Except, given existing coverage about production (cast (including notable actors, as I am sure you know), plot, filming, location, production history etc), it is far from proved that production istelf was not notable, very far.... so basically, no, nothing is demonstrated at all. And this is thus far from being a ”b/w” case. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of that has received significant coverage, that would satisfy the notability guidelines, though? It's all just entirely routine press releases - film announced, these people have been cast, production has begun... Anyway, time for others to have their say. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Instead of deleting this article, extend this discussion till the 27th and if reviews show up, then keep it. DareshMohan (talk) 22:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Delete !voters should consider changing their !votes to draftify. I don't think deletion is the correct decision for a film that is about to be released and will likely be notable after its release. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it's very clearly not the best course of action to delete the article, so I hope the closer does not do so. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae and Hey man im josh: Normally I'd agree with you, but in this case the creator is convinced that the article, as is, easily meets WP:NFF and WP:GNG, will not discuss notability with other editors and has already reverted a draftification. I can see the article being moved back to mainspace without any significant changes almost immediately if draftify is the outcome. --John B123 (talk) 19:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If there are insufficient keep !votes, perhaps the closer can close this as "The result was draftify, and the article is not to be moved back to mainspace until the movie is released in theatres." –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: A movie being released doesn't make it notable. It still needs to meet GNG or the provisions of WP:NFO, the most usual one being The film is widely distributed and has received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics. I would suggest adding and has received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics to the end of your proposed closing. --John B123 (talk) 19:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@John B123: None of that sounds like a good reason to delete the article instead of moving to draft space. WP:DRAFTOBJECT exists and the creator was pushed by myself and another admin to revert a draftification if they truly believed it to be inappropriate. An AfD result changes things, it makes it so that the reasons that the AfD was closed as draftify need to be addressed before moving an article to main space. Let's not try to solve a theoretical future move war by deleting content that could prove useful in the coming months, request page protection or make a report in that case if necessary. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh: I agree draftspace is the best place for this article until if/when it meets the notability requirements. Adding move protection to a draftify outcome would go a long way to ensuring it stayed there until moving to mainspace was appropriate. John B123 (talk) 20:23, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd much rather we wait until such protection is actually necessary. At this point in time, we have no reason believe anyone won't respect the close. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We kinda do, though. Draftifying was the correct course of action, and I would have been happy for it to be worked on there and moved to mainspace, post release, if it satisfied WP:NFILM and WP:SIGCOV, but instead the draft was moved straight back to mainspace without any improvements. Mushy Yank doesn't accept what WP:NFF says, nor does C1K98V, who below is saying "improvement shall take place in the mainspace." Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mushy Yank doesn't accept what WP:NFF says, nor does C1K98V is both inappropriate and not true. AS I'VE CLEARLY explained, I think it does MEET NFF, and SO DOES C1K98V, that is very very clearly stated in their !vote; so please refrain from making this kind of fallacious comments. You have your opinion, ours differ from yours, obviously. You may be right and us, wrong, but even if that was the case, that does not allow you to resort to personal attacks to make your point. Or just go to ANI and report us. Thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The article satisfies both WP:GNG and WP:NFF. The film was announced and filmed during the COVID-19 period. The filming was also delayed/halted due to the pandemic. There is a specific category to list down impacted films. So I'm opposed to deletion, dratify and redirect the article. The changes and improvement shall take place in the mainspace itself. Thanks C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 02:18, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@C1K98V: What makes the film's production notable in your view? Which sources give WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:GNG? --John B123 (talk) 07:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Judith Iwu

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Doesn't meet WP:NACTOR. Acting non notable films isn't part of the guideline and statements of words including interviews, aren't part of WP:SIGCOV, hence my retainable for deletion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Keep: The page meets Wikipedia standard and if there be any need for improvement, then it can be stated or worked on rather than nominating for outright deletion. I appreciate the effort to keep our Wikipedia clean.
Dreamlightwriters (talk) 06:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : All I just see here are interviews mhen.--Gabriel (……?) 19:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did you open the reference links? cause the articles here are not interviews. Kindly take time to open the links and go through the articles to verify your opinion on this. Thanks. Dreamlightwriters (talk) 05:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have gone through the links and they still can't change my thought on the reason why I suggested a delete. I will also advise as a new editor you have to avoid Wikipedia Sockpuppetry with the aim to save an article because it violates the policy. Gabriel (……?) 02:11, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Sources present does not meet the general notability criteria. The sources are laughable to say the least. Best, Reading of Beans 08:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please kindly go through the sources to verify your comment, just looking through the titles are not enough to make claims on it. Thanks. Dreamlightwriters (talk) 05:56, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Just yet another article backed up by disappointing pieces from Vanguard. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you be more explicit about your comment and claim, thanks. Dreamlightwriters (talk) 05:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback, I beg to disagree, not sure what you mean by acting non notable films, because from the filmography you should be able to tell notable films the subject acted in, some can be found on IMDb, she has acted alongside other veterans in the Nigerian film industries which you can see in the filmography. Also that the references added are interviews are false, kindly take time to open the links and read through them to verify your claim.

The subject, has been actively acting for 16 years, with notable movies, only veterans in the Nollywood industry would speak on an issue and it will be news, random actors don't have such privileges. Dreamlightwriters (talk) 05:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~: The page meets Wikipedia standard and if there be any need for improvement, then it can be stated or worked on rather than nominating for outright deletion. I appreciate the effort to keep our Wikipedia clean. Dreamlightwriters (talk) 06:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC) (striking duplicate vote. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC))[reply]
Keep: [1], [2], [3],[4] and [5] are reliable that can illustrate notability criteria as such it pass GNG
102.91.72.40 (talk) 09:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I am voting to keep because i did not see reasons why the page should be deleted and the points raised here are not cogent enough to warrant a delete. Unfortunately, i had to go through articles created by those calling for delete and i did find worst pages that should not find its space here, some with one reference source and i wonder why same persons should be interested in having a more better page deleted than the ones they created. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.211.59.71 (talk) 19:11, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. While I'm suspicious of our new opinions offered by IP editors, they did supply some more sources and it would be helpful if the nominator or a participant reviewed. I'm not optimistic but you never know.
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I have gone through the five links. As a Nigerian, those links are reliable but they still didn't solve the issue why the nominator nominated the article per the reason. As stated "interviews, aren't part of WP:SIGCOV". And the content on the news were looking like close connection to the subject as seeing most of the journalist just talking of how she got started and not an event that happened which made her known to the public. Gabriel (……?) 02:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gabriel for taking time to go through the five links, in total there are eleven reliable links in the page and only one of them has to do with an interview. Not all notable persons especially in the entertainment industry has lots of scandals enough to put them always in the news, there are some who just get their works done and earn their flowers in the industry. There are many Actors and Actresses whose works still speaks but there are no significant coverage of them and that is why you still don't find them on Wikipedia, that still does not mean they are not notable, the industry still can not do without them or their inputs on issues that affects the industry. You can as well go through the remaining six links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreamlightwriters (talk • contribs) 20:23, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tej Giri

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Doesn't meet WP:NACTOR. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, seems WP:TOOSOON. Or Redirect to List of Nepalese actors. nirmal (talk) 02:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Won't the inclusion in the list be challenged if he has no page himself? If the inclusion seems OK, I could support that outcome too, given the so-so coverage he received in Nepalese and the sourced list of films. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meet WP:NACTOR according to the given refrences ^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]. for more info

References

^ "फिल्ममा 'ट्वीस्ट' ल्याउने चरित्र मेरो छ : तेज गिरी". www.ratopati.com (in Nepali). Retrieved 2024-09-17.
^ "तेज गिरी". www.ratopati.com (in Nepali). Retrieved 2024-09-17.
^ "तेज गिरी". Himalaya Times. Retrieved 2024-09-17.
^ "अभिनेता तेज गिरी भन्छन्: 'उपहार'मा मेरो अभिनय सुधारिएको छ". nepalkhabar (in Nepali). 2019-06-03. Retrieved 2024-09-17.

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Swaroop Puranik

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Doesn't meet WP:NDIRECTOR or WP:FILMMAKER. Awarded or recognised by the governor doesn't highly show any impact tones career and fails WP:ANYBIO. While we expect to see notable films he directed, there appears bit promotional and likely COI creation.

Citing unreliable sources (WP:REFBOMB for a non notable film, Journey of a Queen, shows no WP:SIGCOV for his major work, hence doesn't meet WP:GNG. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 23:42, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have removed the promotional content from this article now its clear Dgtrox (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Appears to be resume and WP:PROMO based page. Fails notability. The entrepreneur and his achievements are not notable that is significant, interesting, or unusual enough to be worthy of notice. RangersRus (talk) 15:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fitzhugh Lee (disambiguation)

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WP:TWODABS applies. The only legit entries are the general and the vice admiral. Middle names, Fitz Lee (Medal of Honor) and Lee Fitzhugh don't count. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep (just) There are a lot of partial matches, and the see also section may be WP:USEFUL to readers, as well as the 3 entries that are fully valid as this appears to be a dab for Fitzes and Fitzhughes. Not the most important page, but potentially helpful to readers, and nothing to be gained by deletion. Boleyn (talk) 12:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and possibly add the anthroponymy project to the talk page. Lightburst (talk) 00:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There are only two entries here (there's no evidence Fitz Lee (Medal of Honor) was "Fitzhugh"), so WP:TWODABS applies and this page could and should be deleted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shwan Attoof

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Doesn't meet WP:ACTOR, as there were few or no sources showing notability. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shwan is well known film actor/director in Kurdistan/Iraq, the article could be stay. I added serval new references. Kushared (talk) 06:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which references? Those aren't reliable per WP:RS. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anikka Albrite

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Fails GNG and ENT. Not opposed to a redirect to the AVM performer of the year but otherwise there is not enough independent reliably sourced information to build a proper article. Spartaz ^Humbug! 18:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete: Tiny amount of coverage [6], basically an interview and [7]. Just not enough coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 22:55, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to AVN Award for Female Performer of the Year#2010s (seems indeed totally warranted): ATD suggested by the nominator (AVN, not AVM, btw). Absolutely opposed to deletion of this BLP. (I would also support a Keep) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:30, 8 September 2024 (UTC) Changing to Keep in light of the mainstream sources presented.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: consistently featured in the list of the top female stars of the industry, as reported by mainstream media outlets in the following years: 2013[8], 2014[9], 2015[10], 2016[11]. Also part of the first married couple to win AVN male and female performers of the year award simultaneously in 2015 [12]. Rim sim (talk) 17:38, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of this is a policy basis for the article. Can you link to actual sources Spartaz ^Humbug! 09:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: the subject is the mainstay of an article[13] on the full-fledged animated Virtual reality scannings, a still nascent tech that can be used to make human avatars and keep them immortal in the virtual world. Rim sim (talk) 06:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New York Post is a tabloid and not a reliable source. So this is irrelevant. Spartaz ^Humbug! 09:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:RSPSS, NYP is reliable source for entertainment related news. Rim sim (talk) 13:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : The fact she has won a lot of notable awards and reliable source to that shows notability.--Gabriel (……?) 18:02, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: she's covered under the list of 'Screen Actors' of Czech-American ancestry with a biographical passage about her life in the book Encyclopedia of Bohemian and Czech-American Biography - Volume 2 [14]. She's also quoted in the book Bodies of Work: The Labour of Sex in the Digital Age[15], and is mentioned in the book The Pornography Industry: What Everyone Needs to Know[16]. The article needs some improvement and can be kept as the subject is notable enough. Rim sim (talk) 07:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: the encyclopedia was published by a self-publishing house, the other two books were by major publishing houses. Rim sim (talk) 11:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pavel Abramov

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The subject does not have enough news coverage. Mysecretgarden (talk) 23:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Raid of Carpetania

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Not Notable to remain as an Article, It should be redirected. Untamed1910 (talk) 22:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Not Notable, No Reliable Sources Exists, it needs to be redirected Untamed1910 (talk) 22:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominators should not make bolded "votes" like this, your desire to see the article gone is already made clear by the fact that you started the AFD.★Trekker (talk) 21:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Reliable sources DO exist about this event, see: [17][18][19][20]

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Keep Article could use some improvement, but appears notable. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Nicholls

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WP:BANDMEMBER, notability is solely inherited by being a member of Bring Me the Horizon ---FMSky (talk) 16:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Bring Me the Horizon, and possibly add protection to prevent that redirect from being reverted, as has happened several times already. The edit comments seen on the History page show that some editors insist that he has achievements outside of the band, but that is false. The current article is dependent on trivia about his gear and non-notable personal matters, and the fact that he made the top ten in a magazine's list of best drummers can be mentioned at the band's article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The user who's previously deleted the article (without going through this process) cited WP:BANDMEMBER, which says: "Members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability."

Individual notability through WP:MUSICBIO states that musicians are notable if: · Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.

The content of Nicholls' article directed about him specifically are sourced to Music Radar, Drum!, Alternative Press, Noisecreep, NME and the BBC.

· Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.

Through the band he is apart of contributes to, they have had multiple number-one albums in their home country, as well as eight different UK Top 40 Hits.

· Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.

Through his band that he contributes to, has multiple platinum-selling singles and albums in their home country alone, as well as Gold records in the United States as certified by the RIAA.

· Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.

Alternative Press and Noisecreep reported about his broken hand that he sustained while touring.

· Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)

Four of the albums he has worked on with his band have been on major labels such as RCA and Sony Music.

· Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.

Nicholls is in a band with Oli Sykes, Jordan Fish and Lee Malia who are all prominent musicians who display their independent notability, through other collaborations, producing other works and music scoring for films.

· Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

Nicholls is a prominent drummer in his genre who is well-known and has been featured on MusicRadar's list of as one of the best drummers in rock music, making him a good representation as a drummer in rock music.

· Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. Note that this requires the person or band to have been the direct recipient of a nomination in their own name, and is not passed by playing as a session musician on an album whose award citation was not specifically for that person's own contributions.

He has been nominated for several Grammy's and BRIT awards, winning a BRIT award with his band for best alternative act this year.

· Has won first, second, or third place in a major music competition.

Nicholls has never been in a music competition, rendering this one of the only guidelines for independent notability he won't meet.

· Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, such as a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album.

He has performed on Channel 4's (UK Broadcasting Network) Sunday Brunch, a television show, with his band.[21]

· Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.

His music has been persistently played on BBC Radio One and Kerrang! Radio for well over a decade now.

· Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.

Nicholls appeared on BBC Breakfast in October 2021, a segment he was apart of in the studio collaborating with the BBC for Children in Need.

Out of all of the independent notability guidelines, there is only ONE he fails to comply to. At the top of the section, it's said that: Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria. He follows not only one, but ELEVEN of the twelve listed criteria, so therefore the article should be kept. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 17:07, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He does have a few specific articles in drumming-oriented publications, but almost every accomplishment listed above was by the band, not him (or any of the other members, for that matter). ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he has achieved a lot with his band. However, let's not pretend that he isn't apart of the band. His achievements lie with the band, and the guidelines apply for not only an ensemble, but musicians in general too. That individual member still shares the same accomplishments as the band. Again, to highlight the first line of the guidelines at the top of the section: "Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria." Again, on an individual level, Matt Nicholls applies to ELEVEN out of the TWELVE applicable guidelines, not just one of them, regardless on whether they are with his band or not. This is like arguing that if Lars Ulrich isn't a notable drummer because all of his accomplishments are through Metallica and not his own, he just shares his achievements with other members. To add to this, Nicholls also qualifies for the composer's list as he contributes to songwriting: WP:COMPOSER "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." He is credited as a songwriter to two of Bring Me The Horizon's biggest hits such as "Throne" and "Drown". Ulrich has also co-written some of Metallica's biggest hits. Do you see what I'm getting at? This article is a must KEEP. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 00:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Shows individual notability per above. Seacactus 13 (talk) 20:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Helaman Jeffs

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No indication of standalone notability. Hardly any coverage of the subject; notability is not inherited. (NPP action) C F A 💬 20:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Solid State Records

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Redirect, or selectively merge into Tooth & Nail Records. It was disputed by one editor and reverted, thus seeking community input. The imprint itself doesn't satisfy WP:NCORP and not fit to have a standalone article. Graywalls (talk) 19:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or Merge. The nominator himself doesn't argue for deletion, and if a merge is desired, that is typically handled through the use of the merge template; there's no reason that this needed to go through AfD. The label clearly meets the sense of one of the more important indies as described in WP:MUSIC, and as the article's sources already demonstrate, it routinely gets coverage in the music press (which makes sense, since it has had several dozen notable artists signed to it). Since this is a sublabel of Tooth & Nail, I'm not terribly picky over whether it is merged into the parent label article or not, but since we very clearly wouldn't want a redlink here, I don't understand why this discussion was even opened. Chubbles (talk) 12:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sidi Mara

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There doesn't seem to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 19:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Agree if no changes to the article are made to the article, the deletion is proper. Orhov (talk) 21:23, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish exonyms

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Indiscriminate unreferenced list of proper names, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Other such articles have recently been deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/French exonyms. toweli (talk) 19:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. What's the use of an endless list of examples of the obvious fact that each language adapts foreign words to its own phonology and orthography? —Tamfang (talk) 05:01, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tom_Whalen

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notability; apparent self-promotion LoveGermanLit (talk) 18:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I can't see adequate sources here. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Guy Finley

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There is no significant coverage of Guy Finley, his work or his teachings in reliable secondary sources. Most of it is blog posts and primary sources. A 2007 discussion ended with a Keep result, but the votes all relied on notability determined by Google hits, a Google featured link and Amazon sales rankings. These are outdated standards. Ynsfial (talk) 17:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This is a great example of a clear WP:NBIO fail. None of the sources are reliable as they are blogs, and I couldn't find any other coverage of this specific Guy Finley (there were other hits but nothing of interest). Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 21:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

!vote I think most musicians deserve a chance Natlaur (talk) 23:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pasta all'Ortolana

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Appears to be a non-notable dish. Sources were only to recipes and a single very short discussion. Versions in other language wikis are similarly unsourced or poorly sourced, and a google search in English pulls up nothing but recipes. No claim to notability in text. A 2021 reference book on Italian food^[1] doesn't mention the dish. Valereee (talk) 17:34, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Catherine of Bosnia, Grand Princess of Hum

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An article ostensibly about a princess but in reality entirely about her husband and brother. The dates and places of birth and death are pure poppycock: literally nothing is known about her. No historian ever has put together two sentences about her. WP:GNG failed. Surtsicna (talk) 18:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete but on grounds different from the nominated ones. Before the 18th Century, rarely was a woman ever named in sources without naming her male relatives. There’s only one source, and that is tantamount to original research, which is my biggest problem. Bearian (talk) 21:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The argument is not that her male relatives should not be mentioned. It is that the article should not be entirely about them. There is nothing to say about her. Surtsicna (talk) 21:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David Pierce (CEO)

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Not notable enough to warrant its own article, and there is pretty much nothing more to add about the person. The person and the reference in this article is already mentioned in the history section of Atari SA and that's all we need. Sceeegt (talk) 16:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete seems like only routine sources exist. The disambiguator makes it pretty useless as a redirect. -1ctinus📝🗨 23:43, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Gąsawa massacre

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The article only describes the motives for the massacre and nothing more, the course of the crime is also lacking, in addition, most things (sources) in the article have a trivial mention of the subject in one sentence, which is incompatible with WP:SIGCOV Polski Piast from Poland (talk) 16:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, I could not find here this footnote Labuda, Gerard (1995). The death of Leszek the White (1227). Historical Annals. 61: 7-33. Gerard Labuda describing the views of Józef Uminski. If somewhere you Marek still has about this study then it's cool, but if not, well, we have problems. I hope that we will be able to keep the article after all. Polski Piast from Poland (talk) 16:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Merge with Leszek the White There do not seem to be adequate sources for an article. It's already covered in Leszek the White#Assassination. Maybe only one or two sources refer to it as a massacre, since massacres usually result in more than one death. TFD (talk) 20:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- There are adequate sources - six of them with one or two specifically dedicated to this event. Whether or not it should be under “massacre” or something else is a naming question, not a reason for deletion. Volunteer Marek 16:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Also probably a good idea to read the talk page first before !voting [22] or the relevant DYK discussion. Naming issue was discussed. More than one person was killed though most sources focus on the most important one - the Duke. Volunteer Marek 17:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep One would think that the assassination/murder of the ruler of Poland would be notable. YMMV I guess. There’s six reliable source in the article with one or two of them specifically dedicated to this event. This is also a very well known event in Polish historiography. The text in Leszek the White article is different (and frankly with worse sourcing). This article was featured at DYK and no one had a problem with either notability or any other issues then. Now it’s getting nominated for deletion by some brand new account with just a few edits who for some unknown reason calls me out by name. Yup. Volunteer Marek 16:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Matt Kean (musician)

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WP:BANDMEMBER, notability is solely inherited by being a member of Bring Me the Horizon --- FMSky (talk) 16:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Moza Sultan Al Kaabi

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I don't believe she meets the notability criteria, as almost all sources only mention her death in a car accident. And the page was created three days after her death. فيصل (talk) 15:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete lack significant coverages about her works and yes maximum sources are about her death. Xegma(talk) 17:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The subject of the article is notable per WP:ONEEVENT - the first Emarati woman to become an orthopedic surgeon.--jojo@nthony (talk) 03:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Comment made after relisting.) Before I assess the sources myself, I must point out that this is not how ONEEVENT works. First, ONEEVENT says that people notable for only one event are generally not notable. Second, ONEEVENT applies to people notable for a single event (which could also be notable), not to people notable for a single achievement. Being the first female Emirati orthopedic surgeon is a claim to notability; sources are still needed to show that she is notable. Toadspike [Talk] 13:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Actil railway station

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Despite the name, this wasn't an actual public train station. From the article: "Due to the line being for industrial purposes, it never really carried actual passenger train services apart from some trains that were scheduled for the workers" although this isn't cited to anything. The existing sources are useless; one is a single word mention that doesn't even support the content it is cited to, and the other is a YouTube video. A basic BEFORE search did not turn up anything promising. At best, this could be redirected to Finsbury railway line. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Finsbury railway line per nom. A search for sources shows that the ACTIL factory/company may be notable [23][24], but the station is not. Toadspike [Talk] 13:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle at Tel al-Hawa

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WP:SYNTH: No source evidence that a series of engagements in the vicinity actually constitute a battle as such and the term is not a Wikipedia artifice. Tagged for notability last month but no evidence of any discussion. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 16:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Royal Parks Operational Command Unit

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Whilst this unit does exist (see here), it does not seem to be particularly notable, with very few non-primary sources. On searching, almost all external sources relate to the Royal Parks Constabulary instead. The existence of a police unit should not automatically warrant an article. Elshad (talk) 15:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Puzzle globe

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At very best, this subject deserves a sentence or two in an article on jigsaw puzzles. Qwirkle (talk) 15:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Which are already there, by the look of it. Qwirkle (talk) 23:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Samsung SPH-A460

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I couldn't find evidence that this is a notable product. There are various Samsung-related articles it potentially could be redirected to as an WP:ATD, but none stand out as ones that are suitable. Boleyn (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Piper Race Cars

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG or have a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 15:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The World Challenge (competition)

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Article about a business competition, not properly sourced as passing notability criteria for business competitions. The main notability claim on offer here is that this existed, which is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself -- making this notable enough for a Wikipedia article would be a matter of showing that it passed WP:GNG on its sourceability, not merely of stating its existence. But the only source here is the self-published website of the thing itself, rather than any evidence of third-party coverage about it, and a Google search didn't find much else.
I'm willing to withdraw this if a British editor with much better access to archived British media coverage from 15-20 years ago than I've got can find the sourcing needed to salvage it, but it can't just be kept in perpetuity without sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 15:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete can’t find any third party coverage, the competition itself seems to have fizzled out in 2008/9, and there doesn’t seem to be any sources talking about it as having happened at any point after it stopped. Can’t seem to turn up further coverage on the winners either, so THEY don’t seem to be notable either… Absurdum4242 (talk) 13:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1979 Bangladesh-Indian skirmishes

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No significant casualties, no WP:LASTING coverage. Wikipedia discourages articles based on WP:NOTNEWS and this is nothing more than that. Nxcrypto Message 14:34, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - article seems well sourced, and several sources are in the late 2010s, some 40 years after the conflict itself, making a nonsense of the “no lasting coverage” claim… it’s… difficult not to see this as politically based spamming since the last couple of nominations on Indian-Bangladeshi border skirmishes from this same editor are just cut and paste, and they have nominated other similar articles last week too… I’ll assume good faith though, and just say that I disagree that the article meets the criteria for deletion based on the merits. Absurdum4242 (talk) 15:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It is a notable incident, Lasting effect? It did have some. Nxcrypto, I noticed that you are copying the same message in similar AfD Discussions, Without even checking the page and It's content and aftermath a lot. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Message)
True The 1979 clash is very notable and it does not violate Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. Nxcrypto for some reason is copying and pasting the same message in multiple AfD Discussions, And some people will not check the page and just want to delete it, So they will say "It does not establish WP:GNG and WP:Lasting", Even when, It is clearly notable event with coverage many years later. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Message)
Citations - The page has several citations including from books and newspapers, some require subscription or have limited information but I think the page meets with General Notability Guidelines. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Talk with BangladeshiEditorInSylhet)

2019 Bangladesh-Indian border clash

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No significant casualties, no WP:LASTING coverage. Wikipedia discourages articles based on WP:NOTNEWS and this is nothing more than that. Nxcrypto Message 14:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge - this article seems well sourced, but I think that this particular clash is minor enough that it should be merged with the main “Deaths along the Bangladesh–India border” page. That way the information can be retained, while making it easier for someone searching on the topic of border clashes more generally to find. Absurdum4242 (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. There is no evidence of notability. desmay (talk) 16:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Pokémon special episodes

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This list greatly fails INDISCRIMINATE and OR. There is no real clear inclusion criteria as to what a "special episode" is. There are bonus anime shorts and exclusive anime episodes, which appear to be the focus, but it then transcludes information from a variety of unrelated Pokémon series, such as Chronicles, Generations, and Origins. Are these really "special episodes" when they're whole series unrelated to any larger Pokémon series? What correlation do these have to any other topics within the article? This article even includes random Pokémon Go promotional shorts that have nothing to do with even these other series, and shorts shown in planetariums, again with nothing to do with anything else on this list.

Normally I would consider working out an inclusion criteria, but this list physically cannot have one because of how loosely it is using the term "special episode." It's impossible to define it, and it's including content that is largely unrelated to each other under this one umbrella term, which gives me OR vibes, as it's impossible for this exact categorization to be determined. A brief search for the term "Pokémon special episodes" also yielded quite literally nothing across all of News, Books, and Scholar, indicating this term is not widely used in any capacity outside of Wikipedia, and as a result, means that it is impossible for any external sourcing to verify what a special episode is.

I would suggest a deletion of this list, primarily because not only is this list just an OR and INDISCRIMINATE mess, but it also happens to largely consist of items that have articles or alternative redirect targets. The Pikachu shorts, for example, can redirect to their respective Pokémon movie they were shown at. Special anime episodes can go to their respective anime series, as another example. While a few things are missed out on, those things largely lack any form of significant coverage or are just non-notable as a whole, and a few of them (Such as Bidoof's Big Stand) have potential to be made into separate articles and have the information carried over there. As it stands right now, this list is impossible to verify, largely redundant due to large swathes of transcluded content, and overall just a flawed article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete As you say, its inclusion criteria are unclear. "Special" or not, episodes should be bundled with the list on the requisite series to most help the reader, not be thrown into a separate article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Per above.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per WP:LISTCRUFT. A vast majority of the article is completely unreferenced, and the descriptions appear to be OR. Sir MemeGod  18:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In the majority of the world these are just packaged the same as regular episodes and the rest are not part of the regular mainline series or not meant to be viewed as standalone episodes. Nate • (chatter) 19:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Estonia national youth football team

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I do not believe that the subject of this article satisfies notability guidelines. A cursory search did not turn up reliable independent sources that could be used to improve it. Even looking beyond that, the article in its current state appears to be entirely deserted, consisting mainly of empty tables. It is debatable how relevant this information would be anyway as per WP:NOTDB. ElooB (talk) 13:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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comment Estonian Football Association pages for these U18 U16 U15. I'm not sure why these articles are grouped together as there is no 1 youth team, all of them are different teams. I rather see them seperately. So I'm not gonna argue they have notability in this discussion. Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ElooB: I made it into disam page [25] such as England national youth football team, Belgium national youth football team, Poland national youth football team, Scotland national youth football team, Spain national youth football team, Sweden national youth football team. I say keep it as disam. Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Pelmeen, and to match similar articles. Giant Snowman 13:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ijaz Hussain Batalve

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Article is not fit for main article space - too many problems with language, grammar, style, etc., but Draft:Ijaz Hussain Batalve already exists. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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article is good enough and unique...grammar or language may be corrected...Article should be retained. Mottoo99 (talk) 16:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So fix the grammar and language first, in the draft article, then move it to mainspace? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Bastun, as you said, a draft exist for this, so why not put in a history merger template before an AFD? Even if it goes through not, at least give it a try! Intrisit (talk) 16:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On which version? One contains at least one copyright violation (now removed)? Simpler to just have the draft to work on, then have that go through AFC? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I drafted it because I had concerns that it might not easily meet WP:N. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He is still a famous and most respected personality of Asia adding his profile on Wikipedia is very much appropriate and knowledgeful for Wikipedians and otherwise. His contributions deserve to be appreciated by Wikipedia etc. Emmay33 (talk) 09:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is saying there can't be an article. The problem is the language and grammar are currently too poor to publish. The article can be improved in draft space, then get moved to main article space. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep he was a notable lawyer and a law professor per some of the sources in the article. AFD is not a place for article cleanup but to delete articles falling below notability thresh hold. What this article needs is cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's editorial guidelines. Piscili (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Notability is not at issue. The subject is absolutely worthy of an article. Agreed, AfD is not a place for article cleanup. Draftspace is. This article is not currently fit for article mainspace though - a lot of what's there makes literally no sense - sorry to be harsh, but some is just gibberish. But the article can't be moved to draft space because there is already a draft article there, and nobody bothered going through WP:AFC, they just copied and pasted back to a mainspace article. If the article is kept, I will be removing a lot of the content that makes no sense, the unsourced, and the hagiographic and unencyclopedic. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Critical raw materials

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This article is in very bad shape. It just lists random raw materials a few countries deem important. I feel like this information is insufficient for a stand-alone article, so should probably be merged or deleted altogether. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 12:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did write on the talk page that it needs expansion and I will be doing some of that myself. Nor are the raw materials "random", one of the points of expansion is the how and why the countries make these lista (EU + US is not a "few" and I will be adding the UK, etcetera). Merged with what? The article has just gone up, what's the big hurry to delete it? Wait a while and if it isn't expanded, then nominate it. Selfstudier (talk) 12:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This article, with all due apologies, doesn’t seem to have a single focus. Either we need to userfy it, or decide what needs to be cut out in the next week or so. Bearian (talk) 00:18, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bit baffled by this comment, what are the multiple foci? From my perspective, the focus is on critical materials as designated by governments around the world and it easily meets GNG for that. Selfstudier (talk) 10:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. I am sympathetic to the statement that doing an AfD ~2.5 hours after creation is a bit too rapid. I think the topic is notable, albeit the page needs work. Since the original editor is currently changing it a lot I would be OK with Draftify; I do think delete is too harsh. Ldm1954 (talk) 07:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jude ssemugabi

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I have to mistaken by cut page and already exists the draft named Draft:Jude ssemugabi Zach (talk to me) 12:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Triangle and Robert

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I'm not sure if this webcomic is notable. The single reference that's in the article brings up Triangle and Robert a few times ([26]), though Google Books only lets me see snippets, so I can't tell if it's significant coverage or not. It has also been mentioned ([27]) in The Comics Journal, where it even says "This [...] strip is virtually never talked about when Web comics are discussed". The article was previously kept at an AfD, but that was back in 2005 when standards were very different. toweli (talk) 12:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Afrikaans exonyms

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Indiscriminate unreferenced list of proper names, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Other such articles have recently been deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/French exonyms. toweli (talk) 11:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. What's the use of an endless list of examples of the obvious fact that each language adapts foreign words to its own phonology and orthography? —Tamfang (talk) 05:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Latvian exonyms

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Indiscriminate unreferenced list of proper names, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Other such articles have recently been deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/French exonyms. toweli (talk) 10:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as none of these (without exception?) have been ruled by Latvia throughout history, there is no natural connection between Latvia and a set group of cities to establish a selection, making it fail WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Geschichte (talk) 20:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. What's the use of an endless list of examples of the obvious fact that each language adapts foreign words to its own phonology and orthography? —Tamfang (talk) 04:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1952 Aeroflot Ilyushin Il-12 crash

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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: There exists no (significant) news coverage of the event, no secondary sources, no in-depth coverage, no continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects and no long-term impact on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:N. The Soviet Union was notoriously tight-lipped about aviation accidents that occurred in that era, and many domestic accidents were never widely reported. This article is based primarily on what appears on the airdisaster.ru website, which was briefly discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_446#airdisaster.ru a couple of months ago. I found that discussion by searching for such a discussion, as my gut feeling was already telling me that this isn't a reliable source, and the "sources of information" field on the entry on that site has been left blank. I've spent some time trying to find even a brief mention of this accident in reliable sources, and have failed. While Wikipedia's notability guideline is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the current state of sourcing in an article, the policy does state that information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. RecycledPixels (talk) 18:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for now to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s. Incident is sufficiently covered there. Once suitable sources are found, it can be made a standalone article. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Soviet aviation task force/Notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meltdown627 (talk • contribs) 04:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete: does seem notable as an accident causing several fatalities, I just can't find any sources on it besides ASN and other accident databases. Sir MemeGod  19:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep, as the nominator later voted to keep in agreement with other voters‎. (non-admin closure) ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lizzie West

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No references SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 09:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as easily meets WP:GNG. No mention of any WP:BEFORE search for sources. Added references including reviews of her music in The Press, Morning Call, and The Village Voice, and a 2003 feature article in The Los Angeles Times. Keep improving by adding more citations; because this is a WP:BLP, we should remove any unverifiable information, but per Wikipedia guidelines this is not grounds for deletion. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep due to sources identified by Cielquiparle, in addition to the reviews I added. toweli (talk) 16:05, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And there are some other sources I found but haven't added (yet?), such as [28], [29], [30]. toweli (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep due to added references SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 21:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep as nominator has now !voted "keep" and no-one has suggested Delete. PamD 08:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per above, as sources have now been added to show that the topic meets the GNG. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ISO/TC 176

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I couldn't find sources to establish its notability. Possible WP:ATD is merge/redirect to ISO 900 family or International Organization for Standardization but could unbalance those articles. Boleyn (talk) 08:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Radio Colony Model School and College

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Deleted via PROD last year, recently recreated as a translation of bn:রেডিও কলোনি মডেল স্কুল এন্ড কলেজ. Meets neither WP:GNG nor WP:ORG, so fails WP:NSCHOOL. Searches in English and Bengali found nothing but passing mentions and indiscriminate directory listings. Without significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources, should not be a stand alone article. Worldbruce (talk) 08:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Methos Chronicles

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There doesn't appear to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Note: there's a story by Don Anderson also titled "The Methos Chronicles", but it seems to be unrelated to this project, besides sharing the same character and name. And then there's also a "Highlander zine, "The Methos Chronicles," brought to you by Carol Ann Liddiard and Sheila Marie Lane", again, seemingly unrelated. toweli (talk) 14:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2014 in Turkish television

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Searched but I cannot find enough good sources. No Turkish article Chidgk1 (talk) 11:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2012 in Turkish television

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Turkish article also uncited, and tagged as maybe unencyclopedic Chidgk1 (talk) 11:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2011 in Turkish television

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The Turkish article is also uncited, and it has been tagged as possibly unsuitable for Wikipedia Chidgk1 (talk) 11:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Turkey at the 2009 World Games

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Tagged uncited over a decade ago. Nothing in the article shows it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 11:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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FC Barcelona–Manchester United F.C. rivalry

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article fails to even explain the actual existence of any purported rivalry, nevermind one that is notable. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 07:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete. the article could be sourced better, with this BBC article being one, but past that, I can't find anymore sources past head to head pages. SparklessPlug (talk | contribs) 13:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. The NYT source is good, but not enough. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Enough with these head to head articles, too many of them. There is certainly coverage, but how we use sources and what we do with the content is one thing. You do get rivalries like Spurs-Arsenal, Manchester Derby, the Madrid derby, however, this one. I don't think it really counts. Govvy (talk) 13:40, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete just because head to head stats between teams exists, that doesn't mean it's an actual rivalry. I see no reliable sources in the article that actually call this a rivalry. We need to stop the creation of these "random teams X and Y that only play occasionally" rivalry articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Wikipedia is not for something someone made up one day. Geschichte (talk) 20:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventuress of Henrietta Street

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LACKS WP: NBOOK, refs, reliable external links, plot summary, WP: SIGCOV; should be deleted, or merged or redirected into Faction Paradox DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:56, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reasons (though the last one has a plot summary; however, the other issues still persist):

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Keep some, merge rest. The obvious redirect is Eighth Doctor Adventures, but there are various merge choices. Faction Paradox works for The Adventuress of Henrietta Street, but the individual authors may make more sense for some material. I’ve just added a citation to Unnatural History, which is the most developed article and I suggest worth keeping. Bondegezou (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh No It Isn't!

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LACKS WP: NBOOK, refs, reliable external links, reviews, WP: SIGCOV; should probably be deleted, but if not, merged or redirected into Bernice Summerfield DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or merge into Virgin New Adventures, which is the series of books it was published in. Bondegezou (talk) 06:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve done some work on the article, expanding it and adding some citations. Will try to do some more. Bondegezou (talk) 09:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Bernice Summerfield, which is a more focused redirect target given this book focuses primarily on the character. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FeetFinder

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Does not appear to be notable under WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. No significant coverage, and the two sources cited in the article appear to be based on press releases. – notwally (talk) 06:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nom and the article has poor footnotes (ducks 🍅s). Nate • (chatter) 19:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Romance

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LACKS WP: NBOOK, refs, external links, plot summary, WP: SIGCOV DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or merge into Virgin New Adventures, which is the series of books it was published in. Bondegezou (talk) 06:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Murders of Keona Holley and Justin Johnson

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This is (admittedly) a weird maneuver, but I created this article a few months ago with the ultimate goal of bringing it to good article status. However, it was tagged {{Notability}} by Lettler (courtesy ping), which would make it a quickfail at GAN. Of course, I wouldn't have created the article if I didn't think it were notable, but it would be inappropriate for me to just remove the tag. If this is kept, I'll fix it up and nominate it; if it isn't then ah well (although I'd suggest this could become a paragraph or two somewhere in Baltimore Police Department); I don't have a strong opinion either way. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 06:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. This is well written and the coverage is quite in depth and over a length of time, with continuous coverage that discusses its effects beyond merely trial documentation, the only problem is for event notability the coverage is rather local. Then again Baltimore is the biggest city in Maryland and contains the biggest newspapers in the state of Maryland, seemingly all of which covered the case extensively, so my regional concerns may be satisfied. There is coverage that seems quite analytical and in depth. It did get some stories about the conviction from UPI and AP, as well as police publications which are not Baltimore specific. When it happened it was news internationally and nationally. Brief bit of coverage in this book talking about the media coverage [31]. At worst this should be merged selectively to Baltimore Police Department. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep for me too per Parakanya - I also found coverage in CNN, New York Post, Washington Post, and Newsweek too, which seems like more than just local coverage. Coverage was also sustained over a 3 year period, and the crime seems like the sort of thing that will have ongoing coverage over time via true crime podcasts, documentaries, publications etc. That MIGHT not happen, in which case it could be revisited for deletion in the future as “just news”, but there seems enough there not to be hasty. Absurdum4242 (talk) 13:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep I apologize for my hasty conduct, I do agree that because a police officer was murdered, there will likely be anniversary coverage in the future (as I've seen at least) and there is coverage from different sources. Lettler^{hello • contribs} 19:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Florida Carry

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From the sources provided by the article and my own research, I have come to the conclusion that Florida Carry as an organization has not received significant media coverage as per WP:SIRS' notability criteria. The articles cited mention Florida Carry only in passing or in one sentence, and do not maintain the focus upon the organization for the source to be considered significant. However, while I was looking over the references cited, I noticed that Florida Carry apparently authored House Bill 463, which was passed in 2012. The article in question: [32], and the bill in question: [33].

If better coverage can be found of Florida Carry as an organization or its actions, then there would be a stronger case for cleaning up the article instead of deleting it. Sirocco745 (talk) 05:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daily Rangamati

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Contested PROD. The relevance of the "further reading" is unclear, it doesn't mention the newspaper. Searches of the usual types in English and Bengali found passing mentions in directories, lists of newspapers, lists of event attendees, in connection with the local press club, etc., and one article in an obscure newspaper saying three staffers were among five journalists acquitted in what appears to be a routine-course-of-business legal case.[34] No sources that would meet WP:GNG, WP:NMEDIA, or WP:NPERIODICAL. Worldbruce (talk) 05:31, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bondage tape

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I have concerns this does not meet WP:GNG. I cannot find any SIGCOV of this (and some uses refer to tape as in video tape). I checked the cited source (Fulbright 2008, located through AA), and it is a glossary of all things related to sex, and its entry on bondage tape is 122 words. Unless we find more SIGCOV, I think this can at best be redirected to the List of BDSM equipment per WP:ATD-R. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dokibird

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This streamer does not seem to meet WP:GNG or WP:ENT. The Siliconera sources are WP:ROUTINE, trivial, and based off of primary sources. The Japan Times and Polygon sources are based off of tweets and leverage notability from a corporate controversy. Doing a WP:BEFORE search brings up nothing else of use. Relisting this deletion discussion since the last one did not get much attention. Sparkl^talk 04:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fretïmio Assocão di Planka

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Suspected hoax created by sockpuppet account. No results for this name in JSTOR, and the picture is of Willie J. Hagan. Joofjoof (talk) 04:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete G3. I agree it’s a hoax. Mccapra (talk) 07:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete: per nomination and G3. Sir MemeGod  19:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ihor Kulakov

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Fails WP:NBIO. Most (if not all) of sources are self-published sources. GTrang (talk) 04:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I cannot see self-publishing sources. If you can see it, you may delete them. Not article at all. Thank you. Abcrad (talk) 05:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rumpology

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This article is terribly sourced (most sources are unreliable or passing mentions) and my BEFORE is not finding anything better (bunch of sources cite Wikipedia, there is SIGCOV in a self-published book here, etc.). I am not sure if this is not a hoax (creation of a arbcom and site-banned user Meco (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)), but it seems to have serious WP:GNG issues that do not appear to be easily addressed; and the current crappy article, which really belongs in urban dictionary or such, is just lending credence and leading to increasing WP:CITOGENESIS, I fear. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:33, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I agree with the nominator's assessment of the present article's quality. Searches find several articles mentioning the topic, but usually drawing on Ms Stallone and her famous son, so no use here as notability is not inherited. (I seldom agree with the Daily Mail, but the assessment in their 13 Oct 2004 article that this is "more Monty Python than medical" seems about right.) I suppose a redirect to the Jackie Stallone article could be a WP:ATD, as it is mentioned there, but I think it would be better deleted altogether. AllyD (talk) 10:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wright Investors' Service Holdings, Inc.

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Fails GNG. There’s a news article about them donating some dam properties but that’s it. Northern Moonlight 03:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete : The nominator is right.--Gabriel (……?) 11:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uplers

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While Ulpers is by no means a small business, I believe they fail to meet the WP:ORG notability criteria due to a lack of sizeable media coverage, as well as most of the article's refs being links to blog posts. Ulpers may perform well, but in the grand scheme of things, I cannot see a valid reason to call them notable by Wiki standards. Sirocco745 (talk) 02:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete : No significant coverage from independent reliable source.--Gabriel (……?) 12:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: An article about a recruitment platform, sourced largely to announcements of partnerships, products and personnel, none of which exceeds WP:CORPTRIV. Similar for the founder's Indian Achievers Forum award which appears non-notable (though I am intrigued by the idea of "a dire passion for adopting new market trends"). A company going about its business but I am not seeing evidence that it has attained notability here. AllyD (talk) 13:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Epaderm

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Did not see any information about the product outside of articles selling skincare products. Just seems to lack sources. GamerPro64 02:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Google Books shows snippet views from several professionals healthcare handbooks, though whether these go beyond brief descriptions of the product is unclear. There is also a published study, visible on open-access: "A Clinical Investigation of the Performance and Safety of Epaderm®, an Emollient Cream". AllyD (talk) 09:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:19, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Giovanni Gallo (politician)

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This is a local politician at the city government level so fails WP:NPOL. The sourcing does not pass WP:SIGCOV, so fails WP:GNG as well. It's telling there is no Italian language wiki page. 4meter4 (talk) 03:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Yes need more significant coverages to stand. Xegma(talk) 04:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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*Delete Election to the regional council of Veneto does not make someone notable. Mccapra (talk) 07:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete falls short of WP NPOL and the broader WP GNG --The editing spirit (talk) 11:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Just to be clear, the Regional Council of Veneto is not the city level of government in Venice, it's the first-order divisional legislature of the entire region of Veneto (which is much, much larger than just Venice) — that is, it's equivalent to a state legislature in the US or a provincial parliament in Canada, not to a city council. Venice's city council is the Consiglio Comunale di Venezia, not the Regional Council of Veneto. So this certainly needs improvement, but he was a state/province-level officeholder under WP:NPOL #1, not a "city councillor" under NPOL #2. Bearcat (talk) 15:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Bearcat; as a regional council member, he would pass WP:NPOL. I understand the confusion and the difficulties in finding sources. My Italian is poor, and my Veneto is even worse (I bought a 30-day pass instead of two day passes for the people mover). On top of that, there’s a different Giovanni Gallo who works and lives in Veneto who is a potentially notable public health scholar who has published well-cited articles about HIV (called HiB in Italian), coronavirus, and hepatitis. Then of course the famous choreographer from Venice, Giovanni Gallo (choreographer). Giovanni is the Italian name for John, and Gallo is an extremely common family name in Italy, so ordinary searches for this name is like sifting between needles and hay. In any case, I think these sources might be good: 1 2, 3, and 4. Of these sources and others, some are just a passing reference that the subject spoke out in favor of a local energy law and such, but overall I think it is just enough for significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 00:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I also added the infobox and few sources.--Alienautic (talk) 14:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per Bearcat, since The Regional Council of Venice compares to a statewide legislature, the subject passes WP:NPOL.

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Motivation and employee engagement

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This article functions mostly as a cross between a lower quality version of Employee motivation and a dump of summaries of studies. I don't see how having the page is useful when Employee motivation and Work motivation both exist. Hihyphilia (talk) 02:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1993 TAC Cup season

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I am bundle-nominating all league season pages of the Talent League competition for deletion. This bundle incorporates the 25 articles listed below.

On balance, these articles fail WP:GNG. This competition does not garner the level of coverage or references about its seasons and results to justify having season-by-season articles. I include the italicised caveat because, as this is the main underage recruitment competition in Victoria, the league's players and structure do receive a decent amount of non-routine individual coverage, as a WP:BEFORE search will attest; but this coverage is all primarily focussed on the league's function as an under-aged talent pathway. The seasons themselves (i.e. who won/lost, grand finalists, etc.) receive only passing WP:ROUTINE coverage. I note also that 19 of the 25 articles (those from 2000–2018) are currently based entirely on a single database reference, and those which aren't are almost entirely from non-independent sources. I see no valid alternative to deletion and that all content worth saving is already found on the main Talent League page.

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all part of the same bundle:

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Comment sorry, but that's way too much for me to work through to see if it needs deletion or not. WP:TRAINWRECK. Govvy (talk) 09:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Govvy: TRAINWRECK is a term for AfDs that cover many topics, but fail because the topics are too dissimilar – some are notable, others aren't. But surely any given TAC Cup season will be about as notable as the next? What makes you think TRAINWRECK applies here? – Teratix ₵ 02:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment it is possible that I did not make clear enough that these pages are all different seasons of the same competition with different sponsored names. Aspirex (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment @Aspirex and Teratix: Because on my first look, I assumed the AfD was for two different leagues. I didn't say don't delete, I just felt it was too much on one AfD. Maybe splitting between two AfDs might have been easier to manage for some people such as myself. Govvy (talk) 19:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment there is a strong case for deletion on the face of it – I would be surprised if enough sources exist for individual seasons of a state-level underage development competition. The point Aspirex makes about TAC Cup coverage mainly focusing on individual players or general aspects of competition structure, not specific results, rings true to me. – Teratix ₵ 02:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Aspirex, this AFD is not formatted correctly for a bundled nomination. You can't just write down a list of linked articles and consider them to be included in this nomination, our closing tool, XFDcloser will not recognize them as nominated articles. Please review the instructions at WP:AFD for nominating multiple articles and format this nomination correctly. No matter how this discussion is closed, this needs to happen. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Liz (talk · contribs) Thanks. Did this edit fix it or have I still missed something? Aspirex (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aspirex, everything looks good. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. We still need to hear arguments from more editors on what should happen with all of these articles or this AFD may close as no consensus. What outcome would you like to see? Why? Could anyone supply a source assessment of at least one of these articles?
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Vivek Verma

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Still unnotable. Not a key member of the Himesh team as he is not even mentioned on Himesh's article. Same weak references from previous AFDs. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: My concern regarding this nomination is that it overlooks the substantial updates made since the last discussion, including the inclusion of relevant sources published after August 2020. Despite the availability of reputable articles from sources like The Diplomat, Hindustan Times, and Times of India, I have focused on incorporating recent sources to align with Wikipedia’s guidelines for establishing notability.

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1. Notability and Wikipedia Mentions:The statement "as he is not even mentioned on Himesh's article" highlights a common misunderstanding of Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Being mentioned on another Wikipedia page does not, by itself, establish a subject's notability. What is crucial for establishing notability are independent, reliable sources that document the subject’s contributions and achievements.

In this case, the subject demonstrates notability through various reliable sources that cover both aspects of their career—both as an indie artist and a Bollywood musician. The presence of multiple independent sources that cover different facets of their career supports the argument for notability. Still ypu can check him mentioned in the core team in many different projects including Action Jackson (2014 film).

Additionally, coverage in independent sources for distinct work profiles (Bollywood and indie music) further strengthens the claim for notability, as per Wikipedia’s guidelines. Getting covered for two different work profile (Bollywood & Indie Music) also cancles WP:1E.

2. *Independent Artist Notability:

The nominator’s comment in the recent nomination mentions "same weak references from previous AFDs." However, the subject's notability as an independent artist is well-supported by reliable sources published after the last discussion in August 2020. This period of time has allowed for the accumulation of substantial coverage and recognition of the subject’s work as an indie artist, distinct from their collaborations with Himesh Reshammiya. The updated sources included in the article reflect this enhanced recognition and demonstrate the subject’s notability within the indie music scene.

The new sources provided in the article explicitly highlight the subject’s achievements in the indie music scene, demonstrating a clear and ongoing recognition of their notability. The passage of time since the last discussion has enabled a more comprehensive evaluation of the subject's contributions, as reflected in the present sources

While articles used from sources such as The Diplomat, Hindustan Times, and Times of India in the last discussion that could have been used, I have adhered to Wikipedia guidelines by incorporating only those sources published after the last deletion discussion. This approach ensures that the references are up-to-date and relevant for establishing the subject's notability.

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Delete. Fails WP:NMUSICBIO. 7 sources on the page and from it 5 sources on the page are not independent of the musician or ensemble itself. They are also promotional materials. Source india.com is unreliable per WP:ICTFSOURCES. 1 other source fail significant coverage worthy of notice to consider notability. I did not find information if the singer released two or more notable albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels or won any awards. I can not find any source where the singer has had a single or album on national music chart or has been in any international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. I see the subject missing all criteria for a notable singer. RangersRus (talk) 14:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and salt per all the many and varied reasons given at previous AfDs, DRs, etc., with particular reference to ANYBIO (done nothing to fulfil any criteria), BLPSOURCES (no independent, reliable third party sources support an assertion of notability), NMUSIC (ditto: criteria fail) and NOTADVERT (fundamentally the root of these repeated attempts to inflict this article upon us). The time may yet still come when his career trajectory makes such a change in dynamic as to justify a neutral, source-based, independently-written article. That time is not now, however. SerialNumber54129 19:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. I'd like another opinion on the new sources added.
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The result was speedy keep‎. The nominator failed to give intelligible grounds for content deletion. (non-admin closure) Frost 09:56, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DXJR

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Delete. I can't find any AFD Because deletion without any reason given. Kirby Xtreme 01:33, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:KirbyXtreme, I don't know what that means, but if you're nominating something for deletion you should provide an argument for deletion. Drmies (talk) 01:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep. No reason given for AFD, notable enough for inclusion. LR.127 (talk) 01:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep This radio station in the Philippines actually meets the GNG with some surprising sources (including the South China Morning Post). With no actual deletion rationale, this nomination is procedurally defective. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep for failure to state a valid deletion rationale. Nominator can you please withdraw the nomination so it can be closed?
Note that this account was created just minutes before the deletion discussion was created and has already nominated another article for deletion. WP:Articles_for_deletion/Horror_Stories_(film)#Horror_Stories_(film). Oblivy (talk) 04:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep Sources are solid which was unexpected. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I Think for List of Radio and Philippines. WP:GNG.

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Relisting comment: Relisting, already at AFD so Draftify is an option.
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Dmitri Pestryakov

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this Russian footballer. Seems like the article creator moved the draft to the mainspace. JTtheOG (talk) 01:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chong Tsun

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this footballer to meet WP:GNG after using different search terms in different scripts, which is understandable as he has seemingly played one game. Sources in the articles are databases and social medias. JTtheOG (talk) 01:34, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No Commercial Airport at Whenuapai Airbase Party

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Political party that existed for less than a year and advocated for a single issue. Only limited coverage, and it all appears to be from 2008, except for a single article about "the stranger parties of NZ's past and present" from 2018. This seems similar to how political candidates may receive limited coverage during an elecetion but are not considered notable. The article creator has reverted an attempt to redirect this page to Whenuapai#Reverting to Military Aerodrome and recent developments. – notwally (talk) 01:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Single-issue_politics#Oceania: I couldn't find articles showing lasting impact other than an article that justifiably says their lasting impact is the absence of a commercial airport there Oblivy (talk) 01:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List_of_political_parties_in_New_Zealand#Parties_that_never_held_seats - basically one guy who got fewer than 300 votes the one time he stood for election. it is an idiosyncrasy of NZ politics that anyone who can scrape up a deposit can say they are a party even if their unregistered "party" is basically a laptop and a printer. Daveosaurus (talk) 03:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of political parties. I feel the inclusion anywhere else would be undue given how little there is about it. Whilst the Whenuapai air base has been a recurring topic in NZ politics, this party had no impact on it and there is an IP edit that suggests the founder of the party (and it's only member) doesn't want to be associated with it anymore. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daveosaurus and Traumnovelle, I notice the section on that list specifically notes that it should be for notable parties. I would expect a non-notable party be ineligible for inclusion? Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't notice that. Many of those parties listed are not notable by Wikipedia's standards. If there is no suitable place to redirect/mention it at then deletion would be best. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NCAaWAP seems notable enough for a list of unsuccessful parties, particularly since they've been outrageously successful in preventing that airport being built! If consensus firms around the parties list, then I'll change my proposed redirect target. Oblivy (talk) 12:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is jocular about it. The party itself really had no impact. The commercial airport at Whenuapai has always been a terrible proposal unlikely to go through (estimated to cost around a billion just to move the military operations and other reasons relating to national defence that I can't mention on Wikipedia). Traumnovelle (talk) 21:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for my attempt at jocularity. I'm happy to follow the consensus on redirect target, waiting to see if any other views emerge Oblivy (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this is such a nothingburger I really don't think it even qualifies for merging. Maybe a merge to the single-issue politics page as per previous comment could make sense, but this is such a tiny thing I think it would be undue there. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 20:37, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was procedural close‎ as incorrect venue. (non-admin closure) C F A 💬 18:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Burglary (history)

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Orphaned redirect with a title of an unlikely search term Cyber the tiger (talk) 18:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misplaced, requesting procedural close: This belongs at WP:RFD, not here. Left guide (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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