Wikipedia:Why is BFDI not on Wikipedia?
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Battle for Dream Island (BFDI) is an animated web series on YouTube created by Cary and Michael Huang. With BFDI episodes having over 1.75 billion views in total,[a] you may be surprised that Wikipedia does not have an article for this series. This is because of the unfortunate lack of independent and reliable sources covering BFDI. Without such sources, it is impossible to write an article that follows Wikipedia's neutral point of view guideline and is verifiable. Despite many attempts to find such sources, none have been found, though sources have been found for The Scale of the Universe, another project of the Huang brothers.
This essay explains why BFDI articles have been repeatedly deleted and why it is "protected from creation" so only administrators can create it. If you are new to Wikipedia, then this essay is for you. But, for experienced editors, this can also be a case study on some of Wikipedia's policies, like notability, what Wikipedia is and isn't, and disruptive conduct.
That said, Wikipedia's fundamental goal is to be a "sum of all human knowledge", and Wikipedia is incomplete due to BFDI's exclusion. You might be able to contact reputable publications or people which specialize in Internet culture, and get them to cover the show. Meanwhile, feel free to contribute to other wikis with different purposes than Wikipedia; see the list below.
Background
[edit]Battle for Dream Island (2010–present, abbreviated BFDI[b]) is an animated web series on YouTube created by jacknjellify, a channel owned by Cary and Michael Huang. The web series features anthropomorphic objects competing in a series of contests for a prize. After each contest, viewers would cast their votes to decide which contestant would be eliminated in the next episode. The series inspired a genre of animated web series known as "object shows."
The creators of the series, Cary and Michael Huang, are best known for the interactive online visualization tool The Scale of the Universe, which has attracted coverage,[1][2][3] was featured on NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day[4] and inspired the Kurzgesagt app "Universe in a Nutshell".[5][6] This led to the International Astronomical Union naming minor planet 10003 Caryhuang after one of them.[3]
You can watch the series using this playlist.
Policies and guidelines
[edit]Inclusion criteria and neutrality
[edit]Introduction
[edit]On Wikipedia, articles must have a neutral point of view. This is one of Wikipedia's fundamental five principles. Wikipedia's notability system is crafted around this concept. There should be enough sources for us to see what the significant points of view on a topic are. For example, if there are multiple reviews published about BFDI, we can talk about what the critics liked and what people thought of BFDI.
It is also important for sources to be reliable. Websites with self-published and/or user-generated content, such as Facebook and Fandom, are unreliable because anyone can publish anything on them, including information that is false, misleading, and/or biased. Those with an agenda against BFDI could write (or pay someone to write) multiple unduly negative reviews about the show which wouldn't reflect the true consensus of critics. This is why sources need to be reliable. A reputable publication would see if the review came from a professional critic and if they are being genuine.
Specific criteria
[edit]On Wikipedia, the word notability is very different from how it is used by everybody else. Normally, notable is just another word for being important. However, on Wikipedia, notable means that an article about the subject can be written such that it
- has a neutral point of view
- is verifiable with reliable sources
- gives detailed, encyclopedic coverage of the topic.
There have been many, many failed attempts to find sources which fit these criteria. Notability is an extension of Wikipedia's verifiability and neutrality policies. If no reliable sources can be found, then readers would have no reason to trust that the information within the article is correct and unbiased.
It is also important to notice the plural in reliable sources. In order to enforce a neutral point of view in articles, we need to discern the majority view on a topic. For example, flat earth is refuted by nearly all scholars and scientists, so we do not state it as fact. However, if there are only a few sources describing the topic, we have no idea what the majority view is, which means the article is unable to have a neutral point of view.
Common sources found in attempted BFDI articles are IMDb and Fandom. These websites are user-generated, which means that anyone can change their content. Wikipedia holds articles to a much higher standard of reliability, where the facts are almost guaranteed to be correct, hence reliable. Other common sources are YouTube links to the web series itself. However, they do not contribute to notability because they are not independent from the subject. If sources are affiliated with the subject in hand, they may only highlight positive aspects of the subject and discard the rest, or they may even fabricate information to promote the subject. Since facts from articles can only be drawn from their sources, a lack of independent sources makes it difficult for an article about a subject to be unbiased.
A common misunderstanding is that notability exists purely to limit knowledge to only what is deemed "important". This is not true. Here is Wikipedia's founder on its purpose:
“ | Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing.—Jimmy Wales[7] | ” |
Our goal is to document knowledge in an organized fashion, no matter how mundane or important they are. If an unbiased, reliable article could be made about BFDI, such article would been made a long time ago.
A similar case occurred with SMG4, an Australian-based YouTube channel that creates Machinima videos using Nintendo characters like Mario as well as their original characters.[8] After extensive deletion discussions primarily over notability, by November 2023, an article on SMG4 became a redirect to Glitch Productions, an Australian-based animation company that is run by the creators of SMG4.[9] As for BFDI, however, there are no articles or lists on Wikipedia that meaningfully dedicate a section to BFDI (see Special:Search/"Battle for Dream Island"). This means that unlike SMG4, a BFDI redirect cannot lead anywhere and thus cannot be created.
Reliability of specific sources
[edit]YouTube, Fandom, and IMDb are some of the most common sources found in pages about BFDI. All three sources are considered generally unreliable because they are user-generated and self-published sources. Generally speaking, Fandom and IMDb can be edited by anyone with an account, whether or not they are "experts" on the subject matter. This means that there is little to no quality oversight on the edits being performed. YouTube videos can be considered reliable sources if they are published by a reputable agency, such as Reuters, or by a subject-matter expert, such as a renowned professor with a PhD. However, most videos and Fandom wikis (including the unofficial BFDI Fandom wiki) are neither of these.
In the context of BFDI on Wikipedia, BFDI videos published by jacknjellify are considered primary sources. These videos do provide insight on what BFDI is for those unfamiliar with the show; however, any interpretation made by Wikipedia editors (e.g. character development, canonicity of BFDI media, and "theories" about BFDI) has to be backed with a secondary source. Not doing so would violate the no original research policy. Not only that, videos from the creator are limited to the creator's perspective.
Popular ≠ Notable
[edit]While a subject's popularity may suggest notability, it does not automatically guarantee notability in the sense that Wikipedia uses that word. Though the channel hosting BFDI has close to 2.5 million subscribers and counting and over 1 billion views,[10][a] these numbers alone do not justify the creation of a BFDI article on Wikipedia. Usually, when something is popular, many reliable sources report on the subject, making it notable. However, BFDI is an exception, with editors being unable to find any reliable sources that have reported on this show. BFDI's popularity can be seen through the existence of numerous Fandom pages,[11][12][13] but it cannot appear on Wikipedia without demonstrating any indication of notability.
Non-mainspace pages
[edit]Drafts
[edit]Wikipedia has a type of pages called "drafts". Drafts are designed to develop new articles before being published as actual articles, which can be viewed on search engines. Since drafts and user pages are not usually found by casual readers, lack of notability and bad writing are not problems.
However, drafts on BFDI were often deleted through numerous miscellany for deletion discussions. This is because Wikipedia has no firm rules. These discussions found that those drafts had many bad edits, and used up editors' time. For example, one draft even got submitted for review and declined 13 times.
User pages
[edit]While editors are permitted to store drafts in their userspace with the possibility of becoming actual articles, editors may not use their userspace to indefinitely host pages that look like articles. These are often indexed on search engines and make Wikipedia look more like a webhost, which it is not. Wikipedia is a formal encyclopedia, not a dumping ground for trivial topics.
User pages are for collaboration and communication, with the ultimate purpose of maintaining one as part of a Wikipedia editor's efforts to build an encyclopedia. Therefore, user pages cannot have "fake articles" about topics that are not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, such as BFDI.
What Wikipedia is not
[edit]In order to compensate for the lack of critical reviews and analysis from reliable sources, many attempted BFDI articles often are plot-only summary of works. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Instead, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Entries only consisting of plot summaries are better suited for alternative wikis such as IMDb or Fandom. Remember that Wikipedia is for everyone, not just fans of a certain series, and that Wikipedia must abide by a neutral point of view–showing that people both like and dislike a certain piece of media.
Disruptive editing
[edit]Disruptive editing, or the abuse of editing privileges, is not allowed. In the case of BFDI, many editors have decided on a consensus that articles about BFDI do not belong on Wikipedia. However, as demonstrated in the list below, the pages have been re-created against consensus several times; this is considered disruptive and wastes editors' time.
As a result of tendentious recreations, pages that include in their title any variation of "Battle for Dream Island" or "BFDI" are blocked from recreation in a technical level (i.e. creation protection and TitleBlacklist). Please do not create pages with lookalike characters to bypass this restriction.
Gaming the system
[edit]On Wikipedia, "gaming the system" is the act of using the rules against their intended purpose to engage in unacceptable behavior, such as attempting to have certain things done in the wrong circumstances in response to similar actions performed by other editors in one particular circumstance. Wikipedia is not a government entity where the rules are written in such a way that unintended consequences are allowed to occur. Instead, policies and guidelines are written with the goal of improving Wikipedia pages; rules can be ignored if they inhibit such improvements.
In the case of BFDI on Wikipedia, there is strong consensus against (re)creating articles about BFDI, leading to creation protection and TitleBlacklist. However, these protections only block the creation of the exact title, which may be case sensitive. Due to their limited scope, there were attempts made by editors to go against consensus and use name and spelling variations of the web series. Some of the variations beside Battle for Dream Island include Battle For Dream Island, Battle for dream island, Battle for BFDI, and Jacknjellify. Having multiple articles with subtly different names or in different namespaces, especially if they are indexed in search engines, would create confusion with regard to which article is the actual one intended for the topic.
Will an article on BFDI ever exist?
[edit]Currently, attempts to create a BFDI article are simply too soon. If you can show that there is now significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of BFDI, then you can start a deletion review with new evidence and rationale included.
In the meantime, you can contact reliable sources and ask them to cover BFDI. Here are some suggestions: keep your message brief, explain why you like/dislike the series, describe what sets it apart from other content, and mention the popularity it has garnered. These are some indicators of the existence of a substantial fan base, which can be a factor in their decision on whether or not to cover it. Always stay polite, and if the answer is no, move on.
History
[edit]Overview
[edit]The first known attempt to create an article about BFDI occurred in December 2010, of which the article was speedy deleted on the grounds of lacking any indications of significance. Multiple users have since recreated the article many times, which ended up repeatedly being speedy deleted for the same reason. Different name variations on the same topic have been attempted, including pages with the name "Battle for BFDI" and "Jacknjellify". Users have also created draft pages about the web series, such as "Draft:Battle for Dream Island" and "Draft:Battle for BFDI". Articles, lists, and disambiguation pages like Dream Island, Ruby (given name), and Woody (name) have faced vandalism due to their page names being similar to the settings and characters from BFDI.
BFDI became increasingly popular by the late 2010s, especially with the release of its fourth season, Battle for BFDI, in 2017. This led to pages on BFDI being recreated, deleted, and salted more frequently. Users nominated these pages for deletions, of which there were consensus to have most of them deleted and some salted indefinitely. In September 2020, the term "Battle for Dream Island" was placed under TitleBlacklist in an attempt to curb recreations. In 2022, administrator Timwi was warned by the Arbitration Committee after restoring the Battle for Dream Island article. In the same year, a deletion review was made as pages related to BFDI were constantly being recreated. In February 2023, "Battle for BFB", "Cary Huang", and "Michael Huang" became blacklisted as well, followed by "object show" in March 2024.
Affected articles
[edit]Certain pre-existing articles often see BFDI-related vandalism. The article Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information (abbreviated BfDI) was vandalized multiple times before they were reverted (see its page history). Two of the edits, which happen to be article hijackings (1 and 2), were copy-pasted from this Fandom page. The article has since been indefinitely semi-protected to protect against this vandalism (3). The article Dream Island is also a frequent target.
Disambiguation pages like Dream Island (disambiguation) and BFB have faced similar issues as editors have added non-article entries in these pages. Per Wikipedia:Disambiguation, these pages should not have non-article entries.
Deletions
[edit]There are a few ways for pages like BFDI to get deleted: opening a deletion discussion, proposing a deletion without any discussion, and speedy deletion. Administrators will usually speedy delete new BFDI articles as they are often recreations of deleted articles. In the past, these articles were speedy deleted for "not indicating the importance of significance of the subject", though the series now definitely shows a claim of significance.
List of deletion nominations
[edit]Date of nomination (UTC) |
Target page | Venue | Result | Link |
---|---|---|---|---|
15 March 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | Miscellany | Delete | link |
27 April 2019 | [c] | Miscellany | Delete | link |
21 September 2020 | File:BFDI Recommended characters.png | Files | Delete | link |
2 February 2021 | [d] | Miscellany | Delete | link |
29 June 2021 | Draft:Battle for BFB | Miscellany | Keep | link |
30 June 2021 | Draft:Battle for BFDI | Miscellany | Redirect | link |
10 November 2021 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two | Miscellany | Keep | link |
30 January 2022 | Battle for Dream Island | Articles | Delete and salt | link |
17 February 2022 | Jacknjellify | Articles | Delete and salt | link |
27 May 2022 | BFDI (Franchise) | Articles | Speedy delete | link |
28 October 2022 | Firey | Articles | Delete | link |
20 November 2022 | Niall Burns | Articles | Delete | link |
7 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFB | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
8 February 2023 | User:KirbyOlimar/sandbox | Miscellany | Speedy delete and salt | link |
8 February 2023 | User:Ericallums2007/sandbox | Miscellany | Speedy delete and salt | link |
8 February 2023 | User:Ericallums15tetert/sandbox | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
8 February 2023 | Draft:Cary and Michael Huang | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
8 February 2023 | Draft:Object show | Miscellany | Speedy delete and salt | link |
19 February 2023 | Draft:Inanimate Insanity | Miscellany | Keep | link |
20 February 2023 | Draft:Carykh | Miscellany | Speedy delete | link |
6 June 2023 | Wikipedia:Battle for a Carl Plush | Miscellany | Delete | link |
List of publicly logged deletions
[edit]Date of deletion (UTC) |
Target page (case-sensitive) |
Rationale | Link |
---|---|---|---|
5 December 2010 | Battle for dream island | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
19 February 2011 | Battle for Dream Island | A1: Not enough context to identify article's subject (CSDH) | link |
30 May 2011 | Battle for dream island | A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content): G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
16 May 2012 | Battle for dream island | A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content) | link |
26 May 2013 | Battle for Dream Island | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
9 August 2013 | Object Show | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
13 August 2013 | Battle for dream island | A7: Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
27 November 2013 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
20 January 2014 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: No indication that the article may meet the guidelines for inclusion (CSDH) | link |
31 July 2014 | Bfdi | A7: Article about a company, corporation or organization, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
8 October 2014 | Object Show | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
5 January 2015 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) | link |
5 January 2015 | Battle For Dream Island | A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (web content) (TW) | link |
13 March 2015 | Battle for Dream Island:) | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A1, G1) | link |
14 March 2015 | Battle for Dream Island:) | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A1, G1) | link |
1 June 2015 | BFDI | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A7, G11, G5 | link |
5 May 2016 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | G 13 (TW) | link |
1 July 2016 | BFDI | G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page | link |
4 March 2017 | The Object Show Movie | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
8 May 2017 | Battle For Dream Island | G2: Test page (CSDH) | link |
8 February 2018 | Carykh | G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND | link |
3 March 2018 | Battle for BFDI | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
12 March 2018 | Battle For Dream Island (series) | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
20 March 2018 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | G8: Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page | link |
21 March 2018 | File:BFDI Logo.jpg | F4: File without a source (TW) | link |
21 March 2018 | Object Show Marker | G2: Test page: A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article | link |
26 March 2018 | Battle for Dream Island (TV series) | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
9 April 2018 | Battle For Dream Island (series) | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
9 April 2018 | Draft:BFDI | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
10 April 2018 | Jacknjellify | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
5 May 2018 | List of Battle for Dream Island characters | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
29 May 2018 | Battle for BFDI | G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible | link |
27 August 2018 | Draft:Carykh | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
3 September 2018 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island Again | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
20 September 2018 | Draft:Marker (Battle for Dream Island character) | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
14 October 2018 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island(BFDI) | G2: Test page | link |
16 October 2018 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (series) | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
6 November 2018 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
7 November 2018 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters | G3: Vandalism | link |
7 November 2018 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters | G3: Vandalism | link |
7 November 2018 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island | G3: Vandalism | link |
17 March 2019 | Draft:Object Shows | TW | link |
23 March 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
6 April 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream island | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) | link |
24 April 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | Duplicate of Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) and appears to be a recreation of previously deleted material | link |
27 April 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
4 May 2019 | [c] | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) (XFDcloser) | |
21 July 2019 | Battle for Dream Island (TV series) | Mass deletion of pages added by Roblox332 per g5 | link |
21 July 2019 | Draft:List of Battle for B.F.D.I. episodes | Mass deletion of pages added by Roblox332 per g5 | link |
29 July 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Repeatedly recreated article, has been to afd as well see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
7 August 2019 | Draft:Object Show Fanonpedia | G13: Abandoned draft or Articles for Creation submission – to retrieve it, see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
22 October 2019 | Draft:Firey (BFDI) | Mass deletion of pages added by BFBFan321093 per G5 | link |
26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island/Elimination Table | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
26 October 2019 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (series) | G8: Broken redirect to Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series). If this bot is malfunctioning, please report it at User:AnomieBOT III/shutoff/BrokenRedirectDeleter | link |
13 November 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
13 November 2019 | Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island episodes | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
13 November 2019 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island. | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
3 December 2019 | File:BFDI Logo.png | Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use | link |
30 December 2019 | File:BFDI Cast.png | Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use | link |
12 February 2020 | File:Bfdi Cast Logo.png | Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use (TW) | link |
10 May 2020 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (BFDI) | G6: Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup | link |
10 May 2020 | Draft:BFDI (disambiguation) | G14: Unnecessary disambiguation page | link |
6 June 2020 | Draft:Battle for dream island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, WP:XFD | link |
12 June 2020 | Draft:BFDIA: The Movie | G3: Blatant hoax | link |
4 July 2020 | Cary Huang | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: A7: Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
24 August 2020 | Draft:Bfdi | G3: Vandalism | link |
16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle for dream island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle For Dream Island (season 1) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
16 September 2020 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island (TV series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
16 September 2020 | Draft:BFDI | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
16 September 2020 | Draft:Object Show | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
6 November 2020 | B.F.D.I. | A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) | link |
28 September 2020 | File:BFDI Recommended characters.png | Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 September 21#File:BFDI Recommended characters.png | link |
28 November 2020 | Draft:Jacknjellify | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
28 November 2020 | Draft:Some Stoopid Voting | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
12 February 2021 | [d] | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Luz Nazario Velez | |
19 February 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Web Series) | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
26 February 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Web Series) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
2 March 2021 | Battle For B.F.D.I. | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
5 March 2021 | Draft:BFDI | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
9 March 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Franchise) | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
12 March 2021 | Draft:Jacknjellify | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion | link |
5 May 2021 | Battle fo Dream Island (Series) | A7: No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) | link |
16 May 2021 | Draft:BFDI (Franchise) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island | link |
25 June 2021 | BFDI (web series) | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
21 July 2021 | BFDI | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: more at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI), Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, and quite a few fan-army user talk pages | link |
27 July 2021 | BFDI | A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article | link |
29 September 2021 | Draft:Object Show (Genre) | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
29 January 2022 | File:Battle for Dream Island logo.webp | There’s already File:BFDI_LogoHQ.png | link |
1 February 2022 | Battle for Dream Island | Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle for Dream Island (XFDcloser) | link |
1 February 2022 | Draft:List of Battle for BFB episodes (Used in the other draft) | G5: Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban | link |
1 February 2022 | Draft:List of Battle for BFDI episodes | G3: Vandalism | link |
1 February 2022 | Draft:List of Battle for BFDI episodes | G3: Vandalism | link |
1 February 2022 | Draft:Jacknjellify Productions | G3: Blatant hoax | link |
12 February 2022 | BFDI | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
24 February 2022 | Jacknjellify | Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify (XFDcloser) | link |
24 February 2022 | Draft:Jacknjellify (YouTube) | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify closed as delete (XFDcloser) | link |
18 March 2022 | Draft:Cary and Michael Huang | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
18 March 2022 | Draft:Michael Huang | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
25 March 2022 | Draft:Object show | G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) | link |
25 March 2022 | Draft:Object Shows | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
25 March 2022 | Draft:Object shows | G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page | link |
27 May 2022 | BFDI (Franchise) | G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Battle_for_Dream_Island | link |
27 May 2022 | Jacknjellify | A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject | link |
27 May 2022 | Jacknjellify | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify | link |
27 May 2022 | BFDI (Franchise) | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle for Dream Island | link |
4 July 2022 | Draft:Object Show | Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criterion G4 | link |
26 August 2022 | Draft:List of BFDIA episodes | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
11 September 2022 | Cary and Michael Huang | R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace | link |
14 November 2022 | Draft:List of object shows by episode count | G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFB | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFB: The Power of Two | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFDI | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:List of BFDI:TPOT episodes | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Cary and Michael Huang | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Cary and Michael Huang (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Object show | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
11 February 2023 | Draft:Object shows | G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) | link |
20 February 2023 | Draft:Carykh | Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Carykh (XFDcloser) | link |
23 March 2023 | File:Bfdi.jpeg | Deleted old revision 20230323132452!Bfdi.jpeg: F9: Unambiguous copyright violation | link |
30 March 2023 | File:Bfdi.jpeg | F4: Lack of licensing information | link |
10 April 2023 | Draft:Battle for BFDI | G2: Test Page | link |
8 June 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | BFDI spam Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show | link |
15 June 2023 | Draft:Object shows | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show | link |
1 August 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | G5: Created by a banned or blocked user (BFDI spam) in violation of ban or block | link |
2 August 2023 | Draft:Object Shows | G2: Test page | link |
9 September 2023 | Draft:Goiky | G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible. Also note Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Luz Nazario Velez | link |
31 March 2024 | Draft:Goiky | G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible | link |
18 August 2024 | Draft:Inanimate Insanity | G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion | link |
Conclusion
[edit]While mainspace articles are subject to notability guidelines where significant and reliable secondary sources are required to stay up, drafts and user pages are not subject to such rules. However, these pages, along with other namespaces, are still subject to some other sets of rules like what Wikipedia is not. Drafts can be deleted after a miscellany for deletion nomination, although this type of scenario is quite rare. In order for a draft to become a proper article without being declined, it should have plenty of reliable sources, not YouTube, Fandom, self-published sources, etc.
Meanwhile, there are plenty of alternate outlets for information about BFDI where you can contribute. For example:
See also
[edit]- Wikipedia:Deletion review/Perennial requests
- Wikipedia:Fancruft
- Wikipedia:Ultras
- Wikipedia:Zombie page
- User:NijikasDorito/Page1
- User:JzG/And the band played on...
Notes
[edit]- ^ a b As of September 2024
- ^ Also went by different names per season:
- Battle for Dream Island (BFDI)
- Battle for Dream Island Again (BFDIA)
- dnalsI maerD roF elttaB (a.k.a Island Dream for Battle) (IDFB)
- Battle for BFDI (BFB)
- Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two (BFDI:TPOT or TPOT)
- ^ a b
- Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI)
- Draft:Battle For Dream Island: The Movie
- Draft:Battle for B.F.D.I.
- Draft:Cary Huang
- Draft:Four (BFB)
- Draft:Jacknjellify
- Draft:Object Show
- User:Citationcreationstandingovation/sandbox
- User:Hjjarrett
- User:BFDIFanMovies/sandbox
- User:LucasNeon51/sandbox
- User:ChanKwanYuMoses1/sandbox
- User:Dannytrinh1806/sandbox
- User:Bfdiman/sandbox
- User:Goodatmath12/sandbox
- User:Chaseyboy428
- User:ChileMedel
- ^ a b
- Draft:Windows Vista (2021 film)
- Draft:Yellow Face Ate My M&M's
- Draft:The BFDI Movie
- Draft:Object Stuff: The Movie
- Draft:Object Stuff
References
[edit]- ^ "'The Scale of the Universe,' by Two Teenage Brothers". ABC News. Retrieved 2023-08-25.
- ^ Hill, David J. (2012-04-15). ""The Scale Of The Universe 2″ Animation Made By 14-Year-Olds Is Mind Blowing". Singularity Hub. Retrieved 2023-08-25.
- ^ a b "WGSBN Bulletin" (PDF). International Astronomical Union Bulletin. 1 (3): 7. June 16, 2021.
- ^ "APOD: 2018 October 7 - The Scale of the Universe Interactive". NASA. October 7, 2018. Retrieved 2023-08-25.
- ^ @carykh (October 4, 2020). Hey Kurzgesagt! Hello from Scale of the Universe's Creator. YouTube. Retrieved August 15, 2023.
- ^ VanderBorght, Mieke. "Universe in a Nutshell App Review". Common Sense Media. Retrieved August 25, 2023.
- ^ Roblimo (28 July 2004). "Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales Responds". Slashdot. Retrieved 28 April 2014.
- ^ "About SMG4". YouTube.
- ^ SMG4 log and SuperMarioGlitchy4 log
- ^ "About jacknjellify". YouTube.
- ^ "Home". Battle for Dream Island Wiki. Retrieved 2 June 2023.
- ^ "jacknjellify". Wikitubia. Retrieved 2 June 2023.
- ^ "Battle for Dream Island". Object Show Fanonpedia. Retrieved 2 June 2023.
External links
[edit]- Media related to Battle for Dream Island at Wikimedia Commons
- Battle for Dream Island at Wikidata