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July 8

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:Great Depression musicals

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The result of the discussion was: split. MER-C 12:59, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: User should have a reasonable idea what they're going to find when they go to a category.

(With this, and the below nominations of other periods, I'm realizing the problem is much more widespread than I had imagined. There are other Great Depression arts categories, etc.) –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 22:50, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:World War I theatre

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:30, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is just used to categorize musicals and plays at the same level, both as subcats of this (which is a subcat of Works about World War I), but it's better to categorize musicals under plays and to make that a subcat. Category's unnecessary. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 22:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:World War II musicals

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 13:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Category:World War I musicals to Category:Musicals about World War I
Category:World War I plays to Category:Plays about World War I
Category:War plays to Category:Plays about war
Category:English Civil War plays to Category:Plays about the English Civil War
Category:Soviet war in Afghanistan plays to Category:Plays about the Soviet war in Afghanistan
Category:War in Afghanistan (2001–present) plays to Category:Plays about the War in Afghanistan (2001–present)
Nominator's rationale: The names are ambiguous as to whether the musicals and plays are from this period, or about this period. Also, consistency with other "works about thing" categories. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 22:34, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
NB the problem is much more widespread than I thought, so I'm not going to nom the full list. If consensus is reached to rename/split, the others might be able to go through speedy. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 22:52, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Publishing terms

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Publishing. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:16, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These articles are nearly all about concepts, not terms, and they should be; a quick glance at this list of articles suggests that only Publish or perish is really a term in the sense that it is primarily a phrase. It's a bad idea to have separate "X terms" or "X terminology" categories, only to fill them with miscellanea that don't fit in other subcategories. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 19:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: you'd have to delete all other sub-categories in Category:Terminology, too. Fgnievinski (talk) 19:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge to Category:Publishing. These are (with possibly a few exceptions) not articles about the subject of terminology (a subtopic of linguistics), but articles whose title is a term - however, categorization should be on characteristics of the subject, not on characteristics of the article title. If not deleted then add inclusion criteria and heavily purge. Note: many terms/terminology categories have been deleted in the past (e.g. here and here). See also User:DexDor/TermCat.DexDor (talk) 20:11, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How can a clear distinction be drawn between "uncategorized articles ... temporarily dropped in the base Category:Publishing" and articles "awaiting to be diffused into sub-categories"? There are no "general concepts" categories currently in en wp and that looks very much like WP:OCMISC. I'd support phasing out most/all of Category:Concepts by field, but not by renaming it to "terminology" as that confuses things even further by (incorrectly) bringing the topic of linguistics into the mix (e.g. probably placing it under Category:Linguistics). DexDor (talk) 18:39, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I was proposing a Miscellaneous category; as there's a guideline in place which considers it over-categorization, I'll have to accept the proposed merge. As for an example of uncategorization, Alderbrink Press is currently placed at Category:Publishing, while it clearly would belong to Category:Publishers. To avoid only shifting the confusion between uncategorizated members and general members, I've started a proposal at Wikipedia talk:Overcategorization#"Uncategorized" (or "Undercategorized") maintenance sub-category, related to Template:Undercategorized. Fgnievinski (talk) 01:23, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you clarify what you think this category should be merged to (the upmerge I've proposed?) or renamed to? DexDor (talk) 20:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Salamanca AC

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The result of the discussion was: delete all three categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is about a Spanish football club founded as a vanished team's succesor on 2013. However, AC Salamanca hasn't got license from LFP (Spanish Football League), RFEF (Spanish Football Federation) and CSD (Spanish Sports Council) for playing. Therefore the team is not allowed to get new footballers or coaches, neither is registered in La Liga (in this case: 2nd B (Third división into Spanish Football league system)) despite "be founded", so it can't play any official match Ravave (talk) 19:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Extinct lordships of parliament

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Extinct lordships of Parliament. User:Opera hat's comment about capitalisation is correct, I believe. If the article ever moved back to List of Lordships of Parliament, then the capitalisation for the category could follow. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:55, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Capitalization in line with Category:Lordships of Parliament and with List of Lordships of Parliament (as distinct from Lord of Parliament). Ricky81682 (talk) 09:21, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
corrected. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • No. The term appears to be "Lordship of Parliament" (so capitalised). My previous comment was missing punctuation (now added). According to the main article, "barony" in Scotland meant what would in England be a feudal barony. I am not suggesting removing "extinct": if I implied that, it was bad drafting. Opera hat please move the list back! Peterkingiron (talk) 17:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to move the list back, I assume you will also move all the other lists of peerages which currently use lower case for the degree of peerage. I suggest you start a move discussion at one of those pages if you think the current standard is wrong. Opera hat (talk) 20:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Annie M. G. Schmidt

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The result of the discussion was: administrative close, it doesn't make sense to keep this discussion open while the category no longer exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. Not exceptionally notable enough per WP:EPONCAT. I think there may be a few more in Category:Wikipedia categories named after writers that need looking at too. Rob Sinden (talk) 09:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Indian films showing bikini

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:31, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Whether or not a film depicts bikinis is not a defining characteristic. Psychonaut (talk) 09:01, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Delia Austrian medal recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 12:57, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. WP:OC#AWARD; none of these actors are known for winning this award. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 06:55, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kansas City Film Critics Circle Awards

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 12:32, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I have nominated all articles and the template populating this category for deletion (all in relation to a non notable award mill). Deletion of these articles would render this an empty and deprecated category, so nominating accordingly. Safiel (talk) 04:53, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 21th century BC

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The result of the discussion was: speedy rename. – Fayenatic London 14:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Change to standard English ordinal 21st  SchreiberBike | ⌨  01:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:21th-century disestablishments in Bhutan

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The result of the discussion was: speedy rename. – Fayenatic London 13:59, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Change to standard English ordinal 21st  SchreiberBike | ⌨  01:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fawad Khan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Films aren't categorized by its stars. WP:OCEPON, WP:PERFCAT. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Big Sean

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. With only song and album subcategories already interlinked, there is no need for an eponymous parent category. WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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