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Category:Buildings Downtown Portland, Oregon[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: --Another Believer (Talk) 14:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. It's the "Downtown" that distinguishes this category. Portland is a major city with many distinct neighborhoods. It would be helpful to look up buildings by neighborhood, rather than lumping every building in the city together. Thanks. Pickwiki (talk) 15:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pickwiki: If you're going to create subcategories, then I'd suggest Category:Buildings and structures in North Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Northeast Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Northwest Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in South Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Southeast Portland, Oregon, and Category:Buildings and structures in Southwest Portland, Oregon, based on Category:North Portland, Oregon, Category:Northeast Portland, Oregon, Category:Northwest Portland, Oregon, Category:South Portland, Oregon, Category:Southeast Portland, Oregon, and Category:Southwest Portland, Oregon. --Another Believer (Talk) 22:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If kept, rename to Category:Buildings and structures in Downtown Portland, Oregon. No opinion on whether than warrants a category. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pppery I've proposed a different way to subcategorize above, if you are interested in revisiting this discussion. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Art awards by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's a bit of an inconsistency issue in this category tree that's causing some confusion. All of the subcategories here are named "X art awards" except the American one, which is Category:American visual arts awards -- but the parent category is Category:Visual arts awards rather than "Art awards", which resulted in me having to do a major cleanup run to move a whole lot of articles that had been left in the parent instead of being moved to any of these subcategories, potentially because these are named differently than the parent and thus people didn't realize they existed. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, this old chestnut keeps rearing it's ugly head, Art is not a sub-category of Visual arts and Category:Art awards by country has been incorrectly categorised subsequently to its creation. Category:Arts awards by country etc would be a better parent category. "Art" includes more than just the 'visual'. Sionk (talk) 21:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Art" includes more than just the 'visual'. Indeed. The recent CfR on art festivals (see below) established that music / dance festivals and literary festivals are not considered "visual arts" festivals, but they are "art festivals". If musical/dance and literary artists are suddenly excluded and disqualified from membership in this tree, that has a lot of consequences. We need to work out the semantics first, and then assess the consequences any changes would have for the category tree. NLeeuw (talk) 06:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom and if there are any articles about awards that are not for visual arts then move them to a new Category:Art awards. Sionk has a point but by just opposing we don't solve the problem that Bearcat put on the table. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is basically recommending renaming these categories then recreating them again. The sensible approach would be to extend the "Visual arts" tree, if that is what Bearcat thinks is needed. Sionk (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom and also support Marco's proposal. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Sionk's commentary is worth examining. I'll add that Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 14#Category:Art festivals in the United States was recently withdrawn by nom who couldn't justify renaming "art" to "visual arts" on second consideration. We need to consider the semantics and consequences for the tree. (Not voting on this proposal yet myself). NLeeuw (talk) 05:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all per nom and also support Marco's proposal. We have "considered the semantics and consequences for the tree" many times, and they would be very extensive, not worth the trouble, and introduce large numbers of clashes between article and category names. So don't let's do that. We know that there are senses of "Art" that include literature etc, but the restriction in many if not most contexts of "art" to visual art, and Arts for the wider sense is normative in English, and Sionk should learn to live with that. In category names, with no immediate accompanying text, more precision may be needed, hence my support. Johnbod (talk) 15:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. In places where "art" proves to be a confusing term for some (I myself don't have any trouble with it) we should remove the ambiguity by having only "arts" or "visual arts", as appropriate. Ham II (talk) 15:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Turkic Sufi saints[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There have been several cfds that found that Turkic foos aren't defining. It looks like this category was missed. Mason (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Singles by decade by record label[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 20:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No need to break them up by decade--that would be better handled with a discography anyway--and no need to have the scheme Category:Singles by decade (in the 21st century only) and record label. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, there was already a discussion about this. Sahaib (talk) 05:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge per nomination and my reasoning in the previous nomination linked by Sahaib. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Koavf: would you be able to detail exactly which categories you want merged where? Ideally in the form
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This will make Category:Atlantic Records singles by decade, Category:Island Records singles by decade, and Category:Singles by decade by record label empty, so they should be deleted. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation and Category:Ipswich Corporation to Category:History of Ipswich. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There is only one page here, which isn't helpful for navigation. I strongly encourage the category creator not to create categories with only one page in them. Mason (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Even better! Mason (talk) 21:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alder carrs[edit]

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Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep — nothing wrong with having only two subcategories, and as noted by Super Dromaeosaurus, there is potential for at least two more. — Biruitorul Talk 21:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete — Except for politicians (as Romania posits itself as a nation state, ethnic politicians often represent the interests of ethnic minorities), such association in entirely irrelevant and should not exists, per WP:EGRS. If somebody wants a random category intersection, there are tools out there that can create it using existing categories. Anonimu (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. The two keep votes are both implicitly referencing SMALLCAT with mention of potential for growth. SMALLCAT is not longer a a criteria to keep a category. If ether of the keeps want to make more well populated categories that's great, but until then, the category is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 02:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conspiracist media[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category contains medias that are mainstream, and most of these are from certain countries. Coddlebean (talk) 06:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete; perhaps upmerge A lot of these are indeed conspiracist media, like InfoWars. But categories are not a place where we can verify their status as conspiracist. That's a job for reliable sources in articles. WP:RSP can help. But verification of membership is probably a time-consuming effort. If we don't do that verification regularly, this risks becoming a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. But perhaps we should upmerge the category to its parents? NLeeuw (talk) 06:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean to delete, considering the fact that many articles are already in a more specific subcategory of Category:Conspiracy theories I don't think this category adds much value in itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep These are not mainstream media; they are something else. Whether or not they are mostly from certain countries is beside the point; they are from wherever they are from. Specific media outlets are quite different from specific theories and, as such, are not (and should not be) in the random set of articles I looked at in Category:Conspiracy theories. Hmains (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, to distinguish between media promoting conspiracy theories and those merely investigating them. Paleontologist99 (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Paleontologist99. - Amigao (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep per above AHI-3000 (talk) 19:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Populated places on the Underground Railroad[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete but manually add some places for which it is defining to the main category. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Specific buildings which served as stations on the Underground Railroad are absolutely defined by it but an entire town, city or county is usually not. In some cases, certain locales like New Bedford, Massachusetts were such hubs of the Underground Railroad that they should be kept in the main category but that can be done on a case by case basis. User:Namiba 15:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep These are historically related places. They were certainly defining for these places during the historical period involved here: 1840s and 1850s in the United States. These illegal activities were something that many people in a place were at least silently aware of and did not bring to the attention of law enforcement. In many cases, the articles do not point to a specific building(s) so there is no use in thinking that will keep tying these together, as they should be. Hmains (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it defining though? In most cases, no. Neither Portland, Maine nor most other cities are not defined by the fact that they had a stop in the Underground Railroad. For cities which are defined as such, they can and should be categorized within the tree. If you can show otherwise, I will withdraw the nomination.--User:Namiba 17:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent[edit]

Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content. They are all Hindu temples. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Oppose nom. If they ever were "all Hindu temples", they are not now. More Buddhist structures could be added. But this is an unsatifactory category, on a highly sensitive issue. Many of the buildings have not really been "destroyed", though the generally rather chaotic articles are not good at clarifying the dates of remaining parts - Hoysaleswara Temple for example. Probably this is often unclear to historians - as is who did the damage. Hmmm. Johnbod (talk) 01:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Johnbod. --Aldij (talk) 09:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Johnbod: the fact that a number of the buildings have not really been destroyed is an interesting observation too. But what should we do about it? (Rename differently, purge, delete?) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Religious buildings and structures in the Indian subcontinent damaged in the Muslim period - sounds a bit lame I know> Is "sacked" any better? Johnbod (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I like "sacked", it does mean something serious happened. "Damaged" is a bit lame indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of Great Britain[edit]

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Category:Palestinian American activists for Palestinian solidarity[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. This is an extremely narrow intersection of activists for a specific cause, intersecting with nationality and ethnicity. Mason (talk) 19:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dual merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Middle Eastern anti-racism activists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category lawyer with only three middle eastern nationalities in it. Mason (talk) 19:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Yoruba Muslim leaders[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per Category:Yoruba religious leaders. This category was at WP:CFDS for a different rename proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion
  • Oppose, not all articles in the category are about clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Move to full? Mason (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Smasongarrison: fair enough, but I would advocate "religious leaders" rather than "clergy" per the other parent category. Religious leaders is broader than clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I'd be fine with religious leaders. Mason (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Do not we have consensus here? Ymblanter (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Ymblanter: consensus yes, but C2C does not apply because the two parent categories have different formats (clergy vs religious leaders). If this were to be speedied, it could be done per WP:IAR. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        I see, someone should take it to the full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 06:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Terrorist incidents in Venezuela[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it and it's also not clear cut if the one page Attack on Fort Paramacay is terrorism. Mason (talk) 18:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Male bacteriologists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between being male and a specific kind of biologist, under per WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women speculative fiction editors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between editor, genre of editing, and gender. There's no male editor category in general. Mason (talk) 18:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question At which upward level will gender become WP:DEFINING? Or: At which downward level will gender become WP:NONDEFINING? Would parent Category:Women editors and potential parent Category:Women print editors also fail WP:OCEGRS as a trivial intersection? If so, then Merge and follow-up nomination. If not, then Keep and Re-parent Category:Women speculative fiction editors from Category:Women editors to Category:Women print editors. The current proposal seems a bit piecemeal, and not based on precedents of similar cases. There's no male X category in general is an argument that can be made for countless trees for which the female/women category (tree) has been found to be WP:DEFINING. NLeeuw (talk) 05:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that my nom was piecemeal, quite literally (if you look at the edit history). To answer @Nederlandse Leeuw , my point about male editors was that Category:Male speculative fiction editors did not have a gendered parent category, not that we should do away with the gendered editor category. In general, I think that the subject matter of the content that the editor is editing is not a defining intersection with gender, whereas the fact that one is female and an editor is defining given that the vocation has been described as a "gentleman's career" [1][2]. In terms of the specific kind of publishing, film, magazine, etc that probably is worth keeping because most people are described as a film editor, magazine editor etc, rather than just as an editor.Mason (talk) 20:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football seasons[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; part of well-established tree. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, categorization by year suffices in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Category is now empty. Liz Read! Talk! 03:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Jweiss11: are you okay with deletion considering that it has been empty for a week? (It would be scheduled for WP:C1 deletion soon, but being listed at CFD preempts C1.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Well, I guess we can delete this now. This category wasn’t empty when I commented above. It had a child category that was nominated separately. We can file this as another time-wasting, obstructionist XfD by Let’srun, the sort of behavior of his that is currently being discussed at ANI. The 1940 Lawrence Tech football article is now missing a needed 1940 season category. Someone should fix that. I’m mobile-only with limited editing ability for the next few days. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages[edit]

Nominator's rationale: We have sub-tracking categories either to avoid a massive parent category or because different situations require different fixes. The category tree is currently empty, so it is not the first one. And they all require the same fix (swapping to {{Automatic category TOC}}; you don't need a large TOC for categories which have fewer than 1200 members). Therefore, there is no need for this amount of granular detail; one tracking category is plenty. (See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all as empty maintenance categories with little likelihood of use. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Template Category TOC on category with X–Y pages[edit]

Nominator's rationale: After Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, these are all redundant category layers with one subcategory. Merge all to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Template Category TOC on category with over 1200 pages[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. (Withdrawn.) (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Following up on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, I think that this category makes the most sense as part of Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC. (If a category does use {{Automatic category TOC}} and has more than 1200 pages, it will automatically use {{Large category TOC}}. Therefore, any category with more than 1200 pages with {{Category TOC}} does not use {{Automatic category TOC}}.) This merge will also allow for a massive simplification to the code of Template:Category TOC/tracking. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American Roman Catholic poets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category because there's no Roman Catholic poets parent category and all the siblings under category:Catholic poets by nationality are FOOian Catholic poets. Mason (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. I honestly had no idea there were types of Catholics until today but I agree, this should match other similar categories to this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, diffusion by church body within the Catholic Church is only useful if there are a significant number of Eastern Catholics too, but that does not seem to be the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Activists for Palestinian solidarity[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 3#Category:Activists for Palestinian solidarity

Category:Southeast Asian people of Brazilian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Southeast Asian people of Chinese descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Academic libraries in Algeria[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There are only two redirects in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 13:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works by Sidi Boushaki[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one poem in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Algerian inventions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer (merge for now). The lone child category is already in all the parent categories it needs Mason (talk) 13:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Painters of the Holy Land pre-1948[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Painters of the Holy Land pre-1948

Early modern period[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated, except for merging Category:Early Modern history of the United Kingdom to the newly renamed Category:Early modern history of Britain (it was formerly Category:Early Modern Britain). (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename. First, a capital M is not needed, per Early modern period, Category:Early modern period and Category:Early modern period by country. Next to that, we may harmonize the categories further to either "Early modern country" or "Early modern history of country". I will add targets to the nomination when the latter becomes a bit more clear in the discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good job, by the way! This must have been quite an effort to set up and work out. NLeeuw (talk) 20:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting how little consistency there is in the parent articles' titles: Early modern Britain; France in the early modern period; Germany in the early modern period; History of early modern Italy; History of Poland in the early modern period (1569–1795); Scotland in the early modern period; Early modern history of Serbia; Early Modern history of Spain (a redirect); Early modern Switzerland; Early modern history of Ukraine (another redirect) – and Pomerania during the Early Modern Age, Early Modern Romania and Early modern period in Wales for good measure. Do we need to look at these first? Ham II (talk) 13:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all to Early modern history of Fooland, lowercase "m" (following several recent precedents), and "history of" to prevent any anachronisms about countries that didn't yet exist, or didn't yet have their modern names (at least not in contemporary sources, or historiographical convention / common parlance), e.g. the Netherlands (most but not all was the Dutch Republic), the United Kingdom (most but not all was the Kingdom of Great Britain), Ukraine (most but not all was the Cossack Hetmanate or Hetmanshchyna), Germany (HRE, you know the drill), Belarus, India, etc. NLeeuw (talk) 12:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom and Nleeuw. Excellent points! Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom and Nleeuw. I concur with Mason. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, but merge the United Kingdom category into Category:Early modern history of Britain, which serves any purpose the UK one would have and is less anachronistic. Ham II (talk) 12:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair enough to merge, but then Irish redirect should presumably be purged? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportspeople by sport and populated place[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per a discussion in speedy. We should first change "city or town" to "populated place" before proceeding with nationality categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Marcocapelle, @Smasongarrison, and @Armbrust from the speedy discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support all. When these were made, "city or town" was the standard for WP categories, but the more inclusive "populated place" is now the norm and makes perfect sense. Grutness...wha? 10:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support per nom. And thanks Omnis for doing the legwork on getting these cats in line with the populated place norm. Mason (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support all per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per several recent cases in which we renamed this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Happy to see them renamed accordingly, less clumsy than the current names. Sionk (talk) 19:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: If these are renamed as proposed, therare a lot of by-country subcats of these which will also need renaming. Grutness...wha? 02:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Grutness, if this gets through, those will be done in the next one or via speedy. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Good - thanks. Grutness...wha? 15:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Basketball people by city or town[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent categories. Only one category layer. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see now, thanks for clarifying.--User:Namiba 14:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. :) Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Involving countries[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Consistency with Category:Wars involving former countries and similarly-named categories of non-state actors (e.g. Category:Battles involving peoples, Category:Wars involving peoples; supranational organisations like Category:Peacekeeping missions and operations involving the United Nations; rebel groups like Category:Military operations involving the al-Nusra Front; alliances like Category:Wars involving NATO and Category:Military operations involving the Warsaw Pact, etc.), and to avoid confusion with "countries formerly involved in war X". Follow-up to preliminary discussion Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 22#Involving former countries or by former country involved, where it was found best to let go of the "by country involved" formula as the de facto standard. NLeeuw (talk) 08:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: courtesy ping for follow-up discussion. Good day. NLeeuw (talk) 09:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Saipan[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Saipan

Category:Tinian[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Tinian

Category:Rota (island)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Rota (island)

Category:Heliports in Massachusetts[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. As a WP:BARTENDER action, I will add Massachusetts General Hospital to Category:Heliports in the United States and purge Camp Edwards Heliport, and direct further discussions on their categorization to their respective talk pages. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 06:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the proposal from NLeeuw. Let'srun (talk) 01:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by state[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It contains pages and subcategories for US territories, and there is no Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by territory or Category:Administrative divisions in United States insular areas or similar that I could find. Which would contain only a small number of pages and subcategories. -- Beland (talk) 02:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. This rename is consistent with the gradually shift from states to states or territories. Mason (talk) 23:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women portrait painters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for non-defining intersection of gender+type of artist+subject matter of the artist under WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Plurisexual people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I hate to be that person, but... neither of the two people added to the category have the word plurisexual mentioned anywhere on their pages. Is this really a defining category for individuals, under WP:EGRS? Because it effectively seems like its extremely similar to this CFD for Polysexuality Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_February_26#Polysexuality. I've always thought of it as an umbrella term to allow for the grouping of queer, bi, and pansexual people, rather than a term that is used to describe individual people. [3] [4] If the category is kept, I think it should be containerized. Mason (talk) 00:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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