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List of cover versions of Coldplay songs[edit]
List of cover versions of Coldplay songs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 20:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello everyone! I withdrew this page's nomination last year due to lack of time to address issues that could possibly be brought forward, but I believe I'm ready now. The most notable change since then was the removal of tribute projects, as they are now part of Cultural impact of Coldplay. With that said, allow me to recap some important points from the original discussion:
- Selection criteria: My research for Coldplay covers added only acts who have a Wikipedia page to the list, which in theory means they are notable.
- Secondary sources: A fellow Wikipedian pointed out they would prefer to see more secondary sources where possible. I managed to go from 143 primary sources to 93.
- Glee covers: Footnotes were added to specify which people from the cast performed the songs.
- Country column: If I remember correctly, this was a controversial topic of discussion. I used the nationality that is shown on each act's article.
GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 20:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Drive-by comment[edit]
All the notes other than the first one are not complete sentences so shouldn't have full stops -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Solved! GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 20:43, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
More comments[edit]
- "since their rise to fame with Parachutes (2000) and following albums" - I think just "since their rise to fame with Parachutes (2000)" works. They did really rise to fame with that album.
- Willie Nelson image caption needs a full stop.
- Richard Cheese should be under C not R
- Jai McDowall is Scottish, not American
- Damian McGinty is Irish, not American
- That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:37, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I included "and following albums" because while Parachutes (2000) was an immediate success in the United Kingdom, they only started to grow further around the world with A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002), X&Y (2005), and more. As for Richard Cheese, they are a group instead of an individual, are you sure I should sort them under C? The sorting rules are very confusing to me. Other than that, all solved! GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 17:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Richard Cheese is one guy (real name Mark Davis) not a group -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, the article says "Richard Cheese & Lounge Against The Machine (or simply Richard Cheese) is a cover band and comedy act". GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 14:52, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Richard Cheese is one guy (real name Mark Davis) not a group -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I included "and following albums" because while Parachutes (2000) was an immediate success in the United Kingdom, they only started to grow further around the world with A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002), X&Y (2005), and more. As for Richard Cheese, they are a group instead of an individual, are you sure I should sort them under C? The sorting rules are very confusing to me. Other than that, all solved! GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 17:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some LeeV comments[edit]
- Do we need to have the words worldwide and "rise to fame" in the lede? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The band did rose to fame and indeed are globally famous, so... Yes! GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Isn't that a bit promotional? Who's saying they are famous?, exactly. We need to be careful what we say in Wikipedia's voice. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Coldplay sold 100 million albums and 19 million tickets, their fame is closer to fact than opinion. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 23:44, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- That doesn't really make any difference. We are using Wikipedia's voice to make that statement. You could just as easily say
British rock band Coldplay have been covered by numerous musicians worldwide since their first studio album Parachutes in 2000.
or similar. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]- Solved. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 01:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- That doesn't really make any difference. We are using Wikipedia's voice to make that statement. You could just as easily say
- Coldplay sold 100 million albums and 19 million tickets, their fame is closer to fact than opinion. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 23:44, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Isn't that a bit promotional? Who's saying they are famous?, exactly. We need to be careful what we say in Wikipedia's voice. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The band did rose to fame and indeed are globally famous, so... Yes! GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm a bit surprised that cover version isn't libked. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Solved. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- In selection, why is it "release medium", when presumably these are all albums or singles or whatever. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It's because some of the covers were performed at television shows, tours, published on social media, etc. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Sure, but when it's an album you've just put the name, which isn't really helpful if you aren't familiar with those albums. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Albums, televisions shows, etc. are in italic like Wikipedia guidelines ask, that's the identification. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 23:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not really all that helpful in a list like this. You've got a column titled "release medium" and then a title of an album (I assume). How is one supposed to know what medium "BBC Music Introducting" is, as opposed to "Live Lounge", or worse something just called "two". Using italics in prose is usually also given with context as to what you are talking about. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps I could make a column specifying the medium, but could you give me a suggestion for its title? I'm not quite sure which one would be appropriate. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 00:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if we put Album in brackets where we state them, that would give the explanation to the user. I think that would get over the different types of media. If it were me, I'd have gone belt and bracers and had two columns, one for the media type, and one for the name of the album, but that might be overkill. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I just had an idea! How about coloured keys? Something like "Blue line with a dagger indicates a cover released on television". GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 15:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, that'd work for me. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Just finished it, what do you think? GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 23:52, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, that'd work for me. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I just had an idea! How about coloured keys? Something like "Blue line with a dagger indicates a cover released on television". GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 15:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if we put Album in brackets where we state them, that would give the explanation to the user. I think that would get over the different types of media. If it were me, I'd have gone belt and bracers and had two columns, one for the media type, and one for the name of the album, but that might be overkill. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps I could make a column specifying the medium, but could you give me a suggestion for its title? I'm not quite sure which one would be appropriate. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 00:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not really all that helpful in a list like this. You've got a column titled "release medium" and then a title of an album (I assume). How is one supposed to know what medium "BBC Music Introducting" is, as opposed to "Live Lounge", or worse something just called "two". Using italics in prose is usually also given with context as to what you are talking about. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Albums, televisions shows, etc. are in italic like Wikipedia guidelines ask, that's the identification. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 23:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Sure, but when it's an album you've just put the name, which isn't really helpful if you aren't familiar with those albums. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It's because some of the covers were performed at television shows, tours, published on social media, etc. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- What gives the "country" field? Is this from a chart? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- This column indicates where the artist is from, Lady Gaga is American, Rosé is South Korean, etc. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- So it's place of birth? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Their nationality if we're being more specific. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 23:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, that would be fine. Perhaps that should be the header. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Solved. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 00:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, that would be fine. Perhaps that should be the header. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Their nationality if we're being more specific. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 23:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- So it's place of birth? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- This column indicates where the artist is from, Lady Gaga is American, Rosé is South Korean, etc. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The notes should be cited. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Solved. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Happy to Support - great work. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Solved. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 19:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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