Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject The Weeknd

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject The Weeknd

Single-subject WikiProject with very little activity. Since Wikipedia would not be well-served by an endless profusion of narrow or malformed WikiProjects with little participation, we have a rule that new WikiProjects should not just be created on a whim by just one person for just any topic of their choosing, and are instead preferred to be proposed for creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals to ensure that there's a market for them and that their creation follows proper process. But this was first created in November 2021 by a single user, with absolutely no record of any proposal ever having been submitted in the proper place as there's no entry for "The Weeknd" listed under Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Archive 10#November 2021 at all.
The project has since tagged just two of The Weeknd's songs as being under its wing -- but the things they haven't tagged include 119 other songs, any of his albums, his standalone discography articles, any of his concert tours, The Idol (which, to be fair, I wouldn't want to take credit for either), or even his BLP itself, which indicates that the project just isn't very active if it's been missing that many boats for over two years. The only new activity it's seen lately is one user editing the project page itself within the past few days to file it in a redlinked category that doesn't exist to have things filed in it, which had to be reverted because redlinked categories cannot be used.
Individual people rarely need their own dedicated personal WikiProjects, especially if so few editors are actually participating in them -- this would be fine if there were a consensus of many users that The Weeknd needed special attention that the broader Wikipedia:WikiProject Music couldn't handle, but it's not a thing that should be created on a lark by just one user who has failed to follow through on most of what a WikiProject actually requires. Bearcat (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Bearcat, can you please point to the rule that new WikiProjects must be proposed through the WikiProject Council process. I’ve long believed this rule should exist.

Redirect to Wikipedia:WikiProject R&B and Soul Music with advice to merge from the history. No need to delete, but it should not be a standalone WikiProject per nom.

Wikipedia:WikiProject R&B and Soul Music is the WikiProject that appears to place the highest importance by tagging Talk:The Weeknd. This WikiProject is tagged {{semiactive}} and so could use a new enthusiastic editor. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:42, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll grant that Wikipedia:WikiProjects doesn't say that it's absolutely forbidden, but it does strongly discourage the casual creation of one-person wikiprojects that don't have evidence of broad editor interest or participation. Bearcat (talk) 19:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Bearcat, I think the following edits will help.

WP:WikiProject page.

WikiProject Guide

WikiProject Proposals page

-- SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the proposals process is basically dead, and therefore I see relatively little value in directing people to follow it.

What we need is for people to not create WikiProject pages unless they already have an actual WP:WikiProject, i.e., a group of editors. I have inquired at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#AbuseFilter warning for WikiProjects about whether we can warn people against making this mistake, and it appears that it's feasible. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:06, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals has 612 watchers. Most edits to the page were from 2006 to 2008, so I guess most of the watchers are from then.

Good idea new WikiProjects see, very rare; maybe proposals should be sent to WP:CENT.

Right now, I think it is a good idea to tell people to not quietly and unilaterally create a new WikiProject. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SmokeyJoe, I think you're looking at the wrong line. You want the one underneath it, that says "Number of page watchers who visited recent edits". That number is 13. That's how many editors (a) have this page on their watchlists and (b) actually visited Special:Watchlist at least once in the 30 days. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:WhatamIdoing, thanks! Has that always been there.

13 active watchers matches what I would have guessed.

I continue to like the idea of referring serious whole new WikiProject ideas to WP:CENT. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:06, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I can’t find that measure.

General statistics reports:

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Wikidata ID	Q10784025 · 10 sitelinks
Page size	6,258 bytes
Total edits	11,974
Editors	3,466
Page watchers	612
Pageviews (30 days)	522

Minor edits	1,350 · (11.3%)
IP edits	242 · (2%)
Bot edits	89 · (0.7%)

SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SmokeyJoe, Are you looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals?action=info ? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Failed attempt to create the project by a user who abandoned it almost immediately over 2 years ago. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 23:34, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete should have never been created. Catfurball (talk) 19:44, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete abortive WikiProject and all associated project pages, templates, and categories.—Alalch E. 14:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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