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[edit]- Project Gotham Racing (video game) → Project Gotham Racing (move · discuss) – As the latter has been redirected to the former, the disambiguated name is no longer needed. Sceeegt (talk) 22:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Would like to see some talkpage discussion before WP:BLARing what appears to be a notable article. Reverted. 162 etc. (talk) 16:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Magnolia Hotshots → Magnolia Chicken Timplados Hotshots (currently a redirect back to Magnolia Hotshots) (move · discuss) – Magnolia Chicken Timplados Hotshots is the full name of the team and it is written also in their logo. Gayviewmahat (talk) 21:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Generally we go with the common name rather than the official name. I did a brief search to see if I could see which is the obvious common name, but I'm not finding anything conclusive. I am seeing both usages - ESPN for example seems to prefer the full name at least once in the article, while a few other sources are just using "Magnolia Hotshots" - a discussion may be a good idea as sports team names tend to get a lot of attention. ASUKITE 14:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Gayviewmahat moved to contested for now until we can determine the actual common name ASUKITE 15:18, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Global Savings Group → Atolls (currently a redirect instead to Atoll) (move · discuss) – Company rebranded and changed name Ben01807 (talk) 10:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Firstly, we follow the common name for titles, not necessarily the official name, per WP:NAMECHANGES, we can accept modern reliable, independent sources documenting the name change, but we will need to see such sources first. That said, "Atolls" is plural for Atoll, which is the primary topic in this case, so any move to "Atolls" would need to be disambiguated to something such as Atolls (marketing company). ASUKITE 13:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ben01807 moved to contested until we can find sources for name change & choose a disambiguated title ASUKITE 13:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- There's also no chance that Atoll isn't the primary topic here. 162 etc. (talk) 15:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ibrahim Aqil (Hezbollah) → Ibrahim Aqil (move · discuss) – The Hezbollah figure, assassinated earlier today by Israel, is the clear primary topic over the taekwondo athlete, Ibrahim Aqil (taekwondo). I have just moved the athlete article from Ibrahim Aqil, and redirected that page to the Hezbollah article. — Goszei (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- This is a new article and the original page move was not discussed, or even mentioned on either talk page. For whatever reason, the original contributor chose to use a disambiguated title, without moving the original article. Now the redirect has been changed, the first move cannot be undone. The redirection of Ibrahim Aqil has left me wondering where the disambiguation page had gone to, until I found there wasn't one. Currently this is confusing for readers who are not familiar with how many different articles about an Ibrahim Aqil that Wikipedia has, which is two. I think this proposal should be discussed as a proposed move with the other contributors to both articles on the respective talk pages, first, to determine if there is support for what has happened. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Original Kart → OK (karting) (currently a redirect back to Original Kart) (move · discuss) – WP:CONCISE Mb2437 (talk) 16:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Evening Standard British Film Awards 2009 → Evening Standard British Film Awards 2008 (move · discuss) – The article's description stated that the 2009 Evening Standard British Film Awards are intended to honor British and Irish films of 2008 and just happen to be held the following year and not at the end of the filmmaking year like the BIFA Awards do, for example. Even the Evening Standard British Film Awards main article itself refers to 2009 winners as 2008 ones (see that year in the 2001–2010 Winners section), so to avoid confusion, it is better to be renamed according to the main page article. LordTort (talk) 17:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Contesting this, it doesn't seem Uncontroversial. If the awards took place in 2009 then it seems like it's the 2009 awards, even if most of the films mentioned were released in 2008. I've also reverted a similar bold move from today on the 2008 edition. — Amakuru (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Special Forces Tab → Special Forces tab (currently a redirect back to Special Forces Tab) (move · discuss) – Parallel to Ranger tab and consistent with Army's own AR 670-1 document about insignia (and basic English/WP MoS), "tab" should be lowercase. I can't do the move myself because there's a redirect in the way (they should be swapped). — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 19:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if Ranger tab should be moved instead so both words are capitalized in that title, because both of these military awards appear to be proper terms in which title case should be used. Also, both articles are currently written as if that is the case, with the title at the top of the Ranger tab article being the only exception. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 20:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking at this, Doomsdayer. When I first stumbled across this, I was irritiated by the "Tab" on these things, as it seemed another case of overcapitalization, but I looked around to see if it wasn't exactly that: a special, proper noun. Tabs of the United States Army used (already, before I started standardising the texts) a mixture. There was some inconclusive mention on the Talk of that article, but otherwise, I haven't found any discussion, just a bit of sloppiness.
- For me, the deciding factor (apart from my understanding of English rules) was the use by the Army itself in the Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia document I linked to. I figure, if anybody can be expected to inappropriately overcapitalize words, it'd be the US military, but they consistently downcase not just "the tab" but "the airborne tab", e.g., at p.2 (even "airborne" is lowercase there). Also I find at [1] ("...awarded the Governor's Dozen tab...") and [2] (PDF's p.11, 4th-last paragraph "arctic tab").
- Unfortunately, I've already gone ahead and made changes to article text as well as redirects (where I could) so as to unify the mix of usages contrary to Army/military usage. I didn't mean to throw a WP:FAIT situation at you, so I've stopped to see what you decide. If you think these changes might, in fact, be controversial, I can open up discussions on the (I think) four pages I've tweaked. If folks don't like what I've done, I'll go around with my reverting hat on (I mean my Reverting Hat). — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 21:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- If various articles in this area are sloppy and inconsistent in capitalization, then we absolutely need you to clean everything up. Your efforts are appreciated. If anyone familiar with these precise military terms pops up here, we may be able to nail down whether these terms should all be in Title Case or Sentence case. Whatever the ultimate verdict, reverting some of your recent edits and moving some remaining page titles shouldn't be too difficult. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @JohnFromPinckney Sounds like more expert input is needed here. Perhaps a post on WT:MILHIST would help. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if Ranger tab should be moved instead so both words are capitalized in that title, because both of these military awards appear to be proper terms in which title case should be used. Also, both articles are currently written as if that is the case, with the title at the top of the Ranger tab article being the only exception. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 20:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sitelen Pona → Sitelen pona (currently a redirect back to Sitelen Pona) (move · discuss) – The casing of the title should be lowercase and italicized as a foreign language term, and the term most often appears that way in official English language publications. LesVisages (talk) 16:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- @LesVisages The proper names of multi-word writing systems are typically capitalized (see Chữ Hán, Ol Onal, Pahawh Hmong, Ersu Shaba script, etc.) --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)- @Ahecht The names of writing systems are often proper names even in the original language, so it makes sense that most would have capitalization. The Vietnamese writing system chữ Nôm and the chữ Hán characters don't have the first word capitalized in-line since it's a common noun. The names are capitalized at the beginning of a sentence and in the title though, because Vietnamese has sentence case and title case. There is a similar case with isiBheqe soHlamvu in isiZulu. The case with toki pona is a bit different though since capitalization is limited to marking proper names, and the name sitelen pona is composed of two common words. It could be compared to varying capitalization standards in Lojban with its writing system named zbalermorna and Klingon (tlhIngan Hol) with its writing system named pIqaD or in aUI and palawa kani. LesVisages (talk) 17:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- @LesVisages The proper names of multi-word writing systems are typically capitalized (see Chữ Hán, Ol Onal, Pahawh Hmong, Ersu Shaba script, etc.) --Ahecht (TALK